Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:41 am  

Thought Murphy had a good game to be fair. 2 bad calls from ref one where the ball hit the deck but went backwards and am sure their player tried to swoop on it and should have been a six again. The other giving an incorrect play of the ball when there was at least 5 in front of him blatantly offside. Still can't get away from the fact we are just too lightweight up front. We have brought in too many average players when should have had a smaller squad and relied on academy and reserves of needed from time to time.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:31 am  

musson wrote:

Holy cow Jon you normally talk a lot of sense and you’re right murphy is on the rise (defo a sl quality player coming through)

However
To call TJ a diminishing asset I’ve got to assume you’re a couple of beers deep there

His injury record and his performances this year in my opinion mean he is not worth a big contract.

If we can resign him on a lower deal than he is in now fair enough will be a good bit of business however if there are others in for him pushing up his salary I’d be comfortable to let him go.

We need to invest in other parts of the squad not in bumping up TJs contract.

Literally every time he takes a carry he comes out of contact looking like he has taken a knock.

Obviously he has the ability to do things other players cannot at times but when he signed his last deal he was an England squad winger with 1 injury behind him.

Now he is not in the England squad and misses more games due to injury with 2 big injuries behind him and issues regarding his concussion status.

To me that makes him a diminishing asset.

I’d love for us to keep him, as he clearly has the ability to do things at times others cannot however only if it is on reduced terms to reflect the above.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:44 am  

Huddersfield mastered the game with Fages doing exactly what he wanted to do. How I wish we had a player like that!
Their tactics were bang on and they played better rugby than us and deserved to win.
We couldn't break away from our line, and no wander when it was mostly our backs being asked to do it!
Fifita is our ONLY specialist prop and he was marked and clearly not match fit, understandably.
The other props are makeshift and game after game they are being found out.
I spoke to Mason Lino in my local after the game. He said there was plenty of effort but - and he shrugged his shoulders. Reece Lyne and Big Dave also came in. It was the first time last night I saw Reece moving forwards!
Back to being serious for me as with others, our problem is 8-13.
The remainder of the season looks like it could be a recurring nightmare!

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:00 am  

Luppylad wrote:

I personally thought we would win tonight and was dissappointed to be at work so i couldnt attend.after watching the game on sky go i must admit i feel really deflated tonight even worse than the cas game.tonight there did look to be effort and thats why cos if im to be honest we simply are not good enough and it really hurts to say i cant see how we stay up toulose will pick up some wins esp at home.cant see where we are going to win at this present time

Sums up how I feel as well. More deflated after than than any time this season. The same old problems were there. We look so physically weak compared to other teams. Huddersfield continuously rolling us 60 metres down field and kicking and we were struggling to get out of our thirty. No line speed in defence for the majority of the game. Long passes on our own try line even when we're not chasing the game. Runnign diagnoally to clear our twenty. These things are there to see week in week out and for some reason are not being changed. That Huddersfield performance wasn't great but all they had to do was make sure they got into a wrestle second half and they nilled us.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:35 am  

Plus points for me from last night:
Whitbread has failed to impress me so far this season but I thought he really put a shift in yesterday
Murphy looks class, and his footwork/step and pace make him a real danger. Personally I thought both penalties against him were harsh.
I'm struggling to come up with much more than that.

Negatives:
We are far too static in the defensive line and we wait for players to run onto us, giving them an easy 10 yards every tackle. Compare that with other sides who move up as soon as the ball is played, like Huddersfield did last night, restricting our yards in attack.
A few people have commented on Reece's running across the line instead of forward. For me the issue is that we all just watch him do it instead of somebody then coming back on an angle, or even running straight. If he was crabbing across like that and we then had someone run from deep onto an offload from him we'd cause teams issues.
Same issue with the forwards, in that almost every time one of them receives a ball it's from a standing start and then they have to try and get some speed up by which time the defence is on them. When was the last time we gave a pass to a forward that was coming into the line at speed???


I could probably list a load more negatives but I'm feeling myself getting angry again....

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:03 am  

Just glad for the team that they just lost by two points other wise think this subject would have gone into melt down .Huddersfield had a few missing ,so that shows they have recruited better than us in the last few years .And the sooner so called fans that are on the teams back relies that the better it will be .We have signed some shocking players over the last few year and kept a lot of old ones and now W Poaching as been left with the mess and he is suppose to sort it out in a quarter of a season when he as had little input on the signing of players .I saw some of is signings play last night and though they went well .Did not see the main signing this year by Chester do a lot ,sorry I forgot they were out injured .Been like that for the last 3 years .Tell you what I did see last night a team as poor as some are give 100% .and as long as they give that I will go watch them at home and away when I can.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:48 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Nothing can be done, there are no players on the market who can change things, we have no money even if there was. Whilst the pack was well beaten we still has enough field position to win that game. Re Murphy, its pretty harsh labelling his tackle as an error. It was a well timed dominant tackle that should not have been given as a penalty.

Just seen on the other thread that the win takes Huddersfield to forth. The speaks volumes about the quality of Super League at the moment.

A Huddersfield team missing about 6 players?!

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:52 am  

Fordy wrote:

Plus points for me from last night:
Whitbread has failed to impress me so far this season but I thought he really put a shift in yesterday
Murphy looks class, and his footwork/step and pace make him a real danger. Personally I thought both penalties against him were harsh.
I'm struggling to come up with much more than that.

Negatives:
We are far too static in the defensive line and we wait for players to run onto us, giving them an easy 10 yards every tackle. Compare that with other sides who move up as soon as the ball is played, like Huddersfield did last night, restricting our yards in attack.
A few people have commented on Reece's running across the line instead of forward. For me the issue is that we all just watch him do it instead of somebody then coming back on an angle, or even running straight. If he was crabbing across like that and we then had someone run from deep onto an offload from him we'd cause teams issues.
Same issue with the forwards, in that almost every time one of them receives a ball it's from a standing start and then they have to try and get some speed up by which time the defence is on them. When was the last time we gave a pass to a forward that was coming into the line at speed???


I could probably list a load more negatives but I'm feeling myself getting angry again....

Some good points.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:54 am  

These are the only players I would keep df ,kt ,Lewis ,Tom j Corey,max,Lino all rest can go now ok maybe miller just

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:08 am  

We were playing a team with a semi final next week, with several players missing and having flu in the camp. We were at home and you consider losing by two points a plus. The problem with your argument is that it is not just this game but several others during the season. With 10 minutes to go we continued with our safety first game plan of keeping it in the forwards even though it was clear they were unable to make any ground. I would think another team would look to offload the ball and that I blame on the coaching because they did not change what was obvious for all to see.
I have said that at the time when money is tight for people you have to give them something worth watching, these may not be the diehards like some on here but they do bring in revenue. I would ask do you think our performances would encourage someone to go out and pay £25 to watch us.