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Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:45 pm  
[quote="Wildthing"]Really? says zilch of interest to me.[/quote]

Why does that not surprise me?
I actually said he was an interesting new poster, not an interesting post.
Wonder why he's posted on the Cas board about it and not on here, or maybe he has under a different name.
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Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:51 pm  
Back on topic is the deadline 31st Oct, still time

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Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:52 pm  
My sentiment exactly M62 J30
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Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:03 pm  
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My sentiment exactly M62 J30


You two just don't get it - we've been stitched up good and proper, smell the coffee lads.
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Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:04 pm  
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£100,000 a year rent appears to be the rent we're supposed to be paying, I wonder what other SL clubs pay in rental Wigan, Hull FC, Salford etc?


Can't help you on Wigan or Salford pal but I know what the figures for Hull FC were 3 years ago.
Surprisingly they weren't charged per year but per match.
It was £15,000 per game so if you add a bit of inflation in it would be about £250,000 per season.
To be fair its twice the size of Belle Vue so half that would seem reasonable.
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So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>

IA mode off. :wink:

Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:23 pm  
In my rather large stack of 'Stadium' papers I have copy of the original draft heads of terms for the lease, submitted by the Trust and WMDC to the HM Inspector Harold Stephens, at the public inquiry.

Would you like to know what it says... or can you guess? The word Peppercorn is in there...

We should not loose sight of what was promised to the citizens of Wakefield at the PI, in return for a rather substantial piece of land being lifted out of Greenbelt Colin Mackie was going to build a 12,000 capacity stadium (upon receipt of £2m from the Trust via WMDC) and he was going to lease that to the Community Trust on a 99 year lease for a peppercorn rent. The Trust would then lease the stadium to Wakefield Trinity as anchor tenant, the details of that lease were not part of the HOT because they didn't need to be, but it was always understood that the Trust would lease the stadium to the Club on a FIR lease and that annual lease value would have been small, to primarily allow the Trust to meet it's legal requirements (pay the accountant etc) and also provide a growing sinking fund to protect the stadium in the long term, if the current club ever went pop or was relegated etc.

Also, yes, it was always a Community Stadium project and it was envisaged the Trust would facilitate and fund/subsidise community use around the Clubs requirement but, the special circumstance that was used by Mackie and WMDC to justify the lifting of this land out of Greenbelt was Wakefield Trinity's need for a new stadium for the long term future of the Rugby League and the Club in the City.

Now, revisit Andy Wallheads (Peter Box written) statement...

I can tell you that the heads of term that the Trust and Club put together reflect, in principle, the above.

The Trust and the Club do not have mandate to accept anything less that was promised, because anything less is and will continue to short change the citizens of Wakefield!
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Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:33 pm  
Thanks for the update IA.
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Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:35 pm  
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You two just don't get it - we've been stitched up good and proper, smell the coffee lads.

I do get it, I'm just keeping calm waiting for the club/trusts next move.

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Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:43 pm  
Inflatable_Armadillo wrote:
In my rather large stack of 'Stadium' papers I have copy of the original draft heads of terms for the lease, submitted by the Trust and WMDC to the HM Inspector Harold Stephens, at the public inquiry.

Would you like to know what it says... or can you guess? The word Peppercorn is in there...

We should not loose sight of what was promised to the citizens of Wakefield at the PI, in return for a rather substantial piece of land being lifted out of Greenbelt Colin Mackie was going to build a 12,000 capacity stadium (upon receipt of £2m from the Trust via WMDC) and he was going to lease that to the Community Trust on a 99 year lease for a peppercorn rent. The Trust would then lease the stadium to Wakefield Trinity as anchor tenant, the details of that lease were not part of the HOT because they didn't need to be, but it was always understood that the Trust would lease the stadium to the Club on a FIR lease and that annual lease value would have been small, to primarily allow the Trust to meet it's legal requirements (pay the accountant etc) and also provide a growing sinking fund to protect the stadium in the long term, if the current club ever went pop or was relegated etc.

Also, yes, it was always a Community Stadium project and it was envisaged the Trust would facilitate and fund/subsidise community use around the Clubs requirement but, the special circumstance that was used by Mackie and WMDC to justify the lifting of this land out of Greenbelt was Wakefield Trinity's need for a new stadium for the long term future of the Rugby League and the Club in the City.

Now, revisit Andy Wallheads (Peter Box written) statement...

I can tell you that the heads of term that the Trust and Club put together reflect, in principle, the above.

The Trust and the Club do not have mandate to accept anything less that was promised, because anything less is and will continue to short change the citizens of Wakefield!

What's the next stage in the battle IA. Could MC still negotiate a better deal than they're offering of is it a case of that's the deal and that's it?
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Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:45 pm  
M62 J30 TRINITY wrote:
What's the next stage in the battle IA. Could MC still negotiate a better deal than they're offering of is it a case of that's the deal and that's it?
Up the Trin

It's F em time, they're taking the Michael, take em to court, if we lose we move to Dewsbury or Fev.
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