Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:49 pm  

JINJER wrote:

It's F em time, they're taking the Michael, take em to court, if we lose we move to Dewsbury or Fev.
#boxinthedock

And even if we win we end up at Dewsbury or Fev. They are hardly going to be building us a stadium afterwards.

Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:57 pm  

M62 J30 TRINITY wrote:

What's the next stage in the battle IA. Could MC still negotiate a better deal than they're offering of is it a case of that's the deal and that's it?
Up the Trin

What deal 'they are' offering? The only pieces of paper that have been produced, have been produced by the club and the trust. The club and the trust have not seen one scrap of paper from WMDC, Mackie or 88M, not even a single sentence. They don't even take any meeting minutes!!! They got sent a copy of our proposed HoT and then ran to the press, without the usual and common courtesy of sending it to us first, and said that the club had broken off negotiation!

Email Andy Wallhead and ask him for a copy of the documentation that they have produced... you will be waiting a while!

Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:14 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

And even if we win we end up at Dewsbury or Fev. They are hardly going to be building us a stadium afterwards.

Nope they're possibly not, but I'm of the "bite your nose off to spite your face" generation, make them squirm, let them feel what we're feeling, if we lose we move on.
As an aside, if we win, couldn't Box be demoted sacked? Could Yorkcourt be forced to build a stadium and if they declined could they be sued and forced out of business? No idea but wondered where it could all end.

Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:16 pm  

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote:

What deal 'they are' offering? The only pieces of paper that have been produced, have been produced by the club and the trust. The club and the trust have not seen one scrap of paper from WMDC, Mackie or 88M, not even a single sentence. They don't even take any meeting minutes!!! They got sent a copy of our proposed HoT and then ran to the press, without the usual and common courtesy of sending it to us first, and said that the club had broken off negotiation!

Email Andy Wallhead and ask him for a copy of the documentation that they have produced... you will be waiting a while!

BBC, Look north, Calendar, Daily sport? Has anyone of these carried this news?

Re: DEADLINE : Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:36 pm  

JINJER wrote:

BBC, Look north, Calendar, Daily sport? Has anyone of these carried this news?

The Box express, I mean Wakefield Express, has hasn't it??

Re: DEADLINE : Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:25 am  

I would of like to have seen us taken advantage of the publicity we could of gained at the back end of the season when we had televised games and when we was on a high,
now the seasons gone all media attention now is via written statements, Box has used this to their advantage in announcing the stadium improvements which then got the public on their side.

I would like to know how much money has been wasted in not even get any of the projects started and the their attempts to shut down Wakefield Trinity

Re: DEADLINE : Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:36 am  

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote:

What deal 'they are' offering? The only pieces of paper that have been produced, have been produced by the club and the trust. The club and the trust have not seen one scrap of paper from WMDC, Mackie or 88M, not even a single sentence. They don't even take any meeting minutes!!! They got sent a copy of our proposed HoT and then ran to the press, without the usual and common courtesy of sending it to us first, and said that the club had broken off negotiation!

Email Andy Wallhead and ask him for a copy of the documentation that they have produced... you will be waiting a while!

IA this being the case why didn’t the club make a statement saying we hadn’t broken off negotiations and didn’t want a ground for free and would make a further detailed statement after taking legal advice? That would have at least made the wider public aware that the council press release was factually incorrect on those key point with further details to follow.

As it is we have various people believing the councils cock and bull version and thus they have won the first round of wider public opinion

Re: DEADLINE : Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:09 am  

Tricky2309 wrote:

IA this being the case why didn’t the club make a statement saying we hadn’t broken off negotiations and didn’t want a ground for free and would make a further detailed statement after taking legal advice? That would have at least made the wider public aware that the council press release was factually incorrect on those key point with further details to follow.

As it is we have various people believing the councils cock and bull version and thus they have won the first round of wider public opinion

Sadly I don't think the wider public are particularly interested and I don't think this is going to be settled by a media fight but we will use the media at the appropriate time.

In my opinion this will only be settled now by a couple of High Court Judges through a Judicial Review of everything that has gone on from the Public Inquiry to date including Newcold amongst other things.

Re: DEADLINE : Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:18 am  

JINJER wrote:

Nope they're possibly not, but I'm of the "bite your nose off to spite your face" generation, make them squirm, let them feel what we're feeling, if we lose we move on.
As an aside, if we win, couldn't Box be demoted sacked? Could Yorkcourt be forced to build a stadium and if they declined could they be sued and forced out of business? No idea but wondered where it could all end.

That's the problem we have and that's where they have us by the knackers. If we can't negotiate a deal for Belle Vue that suits us and everyone else and we go to court (which I think we should) what happens in the mean time we could end up losing our SL place and still end up with nothing. If a deal isn't done what the bets on Sir Rodney getting a consortium together that will accept what ever deal going. Hope MC plays a blinder and gets us a decent deal, still think there a few twists and turns in this.

Up the Trin

Re: DEADLINE : Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:53 am  

JINJER wrote:

Nope they're possibly not, but I'm of the "bite your nose off to spite your face" generation, make them squirm, let them feel what we're feeling, if we lose we move on.
As an aside, if we win, couldn't Box be demoted sacked? Could Yorkcourt be forced to build a stadium and if they declined could they be sued and forced out of business? No idea but wondered where it could all end.

I’m with you in that i hate to see people profit from their allegedly ‘dodgy’ intentions but if i’m honest all i’m bothered about is whether the club gets the stadium it so desperatley needs to have a future. And given there’s as good a chance of losing as winning in court then we could end up actually strengthening Box and his clan further. Either way there will be no stadium. Given the costs involved, the time it takes and the bad feeling it will cause both with those who have influence and with the wider public then sadly if it ends up in court it can only be about principles, whatever the result the club has already lost.