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Re: Takeover updates : Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:15 am  

Indeed. I really don't understand the view.

By all means criticise the on field performance but I don't think Carter or Minards has missed a tackle yet.
Yes they recruited the team and coach but 1) they did it under the financial limitations of the club and 2) they weren't to know how injuries and performance was going to affect the season.

But even with the on field stuff, they are doing a job, no-one else wants to do, for no financial gain.....and then being stalked by people who just like to take pot shots. Some on FB don't even go to the games (not Mopsey).

I'm happy with both their efforts.
We are in the absolute best position as a club that we've been in in my life time.
If it means we have to have a season in championship to sustain our future, then so be it.

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Re: Takeover updates : Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:17 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

You can view it with the squad and on the pitch over the last three seasons. It is success that brings increased crowds and more importantly retaining our SL status.
What do you think of of the way the squad has progressed under the current incumbents objectively.

Wakefield is the proof that a more successful team does not increase crowds significantly. Lots of things impact that.
Retaining our super league status is no longer about just success on the field.

Re: Takeover updates : Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:26 am  

PopTart wrote:

Wakefield is the proof that a more successful team does not increase crowds significantly. Lots of things impact that.
Retaining our super league status is no longer about just success on the field.

Not totally true PT.

In 2018, our last season we finished in the play offs, we averaged 5244, and in 2022, we averaged 4613, a decrease of 631.

With that decrease, if those were adult season ticket holders, you would be looking at around £150k of lost revenue, in comparison to 2018.

Re: Takeover updates : Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:51 am  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Not totally true PT.

In 2018, our last season we finished in the play offs, we averaged 5244, and in 2022, we averaged 4613, a decrease of 631.

With that decrease, if those were adult season ticket holders, you would be looking at around £150k of lost revenue, in comparison to 2018.

That’s after limited flirting with playoffs. If Trinity were to get a couple of sustained years of playoff rugby crowds would rise above 6k and then some imho. The potential is there but not the investment. It would take 3-5 years to full transform the club.

This is exactly why I firmly believe after a few poor struggling years we are down to our core support. It won’t go any lower and if we end up in championship and invest enough to have a strong winning team then the fans will start to return. It wouldn’t surprise me to see higher attendances in the championship if we are winning that this year in SL.

I would only be worried if we drop down but don’t invest to come back up. The plan would have to be stay full or mostly full time to win games, challenge for finals and bring back the fans.

Re: Takeover updatesre : Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:48 pm  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Not totally true PT.

In 2018, our last season we finished in the play offs, we averaged 5244, and in 2022, we averaged 4613, a decrease of 631.

With that decrease, if those were adult season ticket holders, you would be looking at around £150k of lost revenue, in comparison to 2018.

Mitigation factors for the current decrease in season ticket holders. The 2 years of Covid lockdowns, the number of deaths due to Covid, and the age demographic of our season ticket holder, one of which I’m getting near the end myself. These are factors beyond the club’s control, and with poor on field results in recent years has indeed lead to a decline in attendance. Hopefully, new management = new ideas, at the moment that’s the best we can hope for.

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Re: Takeover updates : Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:51 pm  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Not totally true PT.

In 2018, our last season we finished in the play offs, we averaged 5244, and in 2022, we averaged 4613, a decrease of 631.

With that decrease, if those were adult season ticket holders, you would be looking at around £150k of lost revenue, in comparison to 2018.

I think that proves my point.
The attendance went up of course but ticket price impacts that too....and I'd suggest the investment to get the team of 22 to the playoffs is a lot more than £150k.....so not a good investment.

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Re: Takeover updates : Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:57 pm  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Maybe they are associates of each other.

First and foremost, they are part of MKM Building, a building supplies company, who have a kitchen department. Maybe that side is oursourced to DIY Kitchens.

Regardless, they are a huge company, with over £800m turnover on the last set of accounts, and this can only be good thing for us.

If that is the case, well done in getting this one over the line.

Trinity page has just shared the MKM post so it is to do with us I assume.

Re: Takeover updates : Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:37 pm  

alegend wrote:

You are right they ruined the club They will leave us with a state of the art pitch ,big screen, revamped North Stand ,New East stand, New floodlights .And when they took over,wiped over a 2million pound det off owed to creditors , and stoped the club from folding Think we're we would be if they had done ok

oh right if that's the way you look at it. I prefer to look at it as complete lack of investment for at least 5 years, a development falling short of what it was suppose to be, no hospitality and a bodged up north stand, not paid for by this lot by the way, the weakest squad put together in our super league history which puts us on the brink of relegation. Around 5 to 6 million quid of debt which needs to be serviced. A grovelling plea to fans for money for shares, which we raised 350 grand from fans but 300 of it from carter's dad, was this to prop the club up. 200 grand from Ellis, to try and get us out of the mire. Oh your going to say we've got assets but we can't sell the assets if we can't pay the bills. The assets are pretty worthless realy. Can't wait to clap them out they've done their best but failed. You can still organise an open top bus parade if you like

Re: Takeover updates : Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:58 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Trinity page has just shared the MKM post so it is to do with us I assume.

Could it be linked to work on the West Terrace or finishing off the North Stand?

Re: Takeover updates : Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:05 pm  

pops.
The club is in a disaster position bottom
loss 604k 2022 probubly same in 2023
debt that carnt be serviced and the worse season in our history in super leagur
your as dulusional as our current board
mr and mrs safe pair of hands bah humbug