Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:55 pm  

Waketrin Wild wrote: I reckon if I was Terry Newton I would want to find out why the governing body seem able to name the rugby league players with the findings, but not those from association football,the RFU and powerlifters.(They even name wheelchair cannabis users) Take any one of the 109 pages U.K.A.D.website Other sports seem to brush these issues under the carpet.... Seems though our, well he was our, Terry was targeted, so his biggest fan writes in the Grauniad: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/feb/22/terry-newton-wakefield-trinity-drugs

Waketrin Wild wrote: I reckon if I was Terry Newton I would want to find out why the governing body seem able to name the rugby league players with the findings, but not those from association football,the RFU and powerlifters.(They even name wheelchair cannabis users) Take any one of the 109 pages U.K.A.D.website Other sports seem to brush these issues under the carpet.... Seems though our, well he was our, Terry was targeted, so his biggest fan writes in the Grauniad: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/feb/22/terry-newton-wakefield-trinity-drugs

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:01 pm  

Waketrin Wild wrote:

(They even name wheelchair cannabis users)

Is that an actual sport?

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:11 pm  

Sorry.I should have written Wheelchair Basketball Players I'm surprised any sport is played with all the drug testing going on and people continuing to break the rules making it more difficult and inconvenient for the next generation.

Sorry.I should have written Wheelchair Basketball Players I'm surprised any sport is played with all the drug testing going on and people continuing to break the rules making it more difficult and inconvenient for the next generation.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:53 pm  

I read somewhere today, that the ukada had made a significant breakthrough in being able to detect hgh in blood samples.
As this naturally occurs in the blood anyway it has always been difficult for any agency to prove guilt, as it requires no masking drug it's like looking for a piece of hay in a giant stack of needles.
If they have found a new method which enables them now to spot hgh, maybe Newton will be the first of a long list, could be a few sweating a bit after this news!!!!

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:32 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

I read somewhere today, that the ukada had made a significant breakthrough in being able to detect hgh in blood samples.
As this naturally occurs in the blood anyway it has always been difficult for any agency to prove guilt, as it requires no masking drug it's like looking for a piece of hay in a giant stack of needles.
If they have found a new method which enables them now to spot hgh, maybe Newton will be the first of a long list,

could be a few sweating a bit after this news

!!!!

Hopefully not in our dressing rooms.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:08 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

I read somewhere today, that the ukada had made a significant breakthrough in being able to detect hgh in blood samples.
As this naturally occurs in the blood anyway it has always been difficult for any agency to prove guilt, as it requires no masking drug it's like looking for a piece of hay in a giant stack of needles.
If they have found a new method which enables them now to spot hgh, maybe Newton will be the first of a long list, could be a few sweating a bit after this news!!!!

the only issue is that (according to the reading I have done) the the artificial HRH is only detectable for about 48 hours... which would suggest that the statement by the agency that new techniques and intelligence were responsible for this positive identification... (ie someone who had close contact with Newton and his training regime, gave the agency the 'heads up' the a test should be administered)

this means that users (and those who have gained exactly the same advantage as Newton) will not be detected and get away scott free...

I guess this means that Newton is the one to take the chop so that others think twice now???

In some ways that makes Terry unlucky that he is the chosen example... however... cheaters deserve to be caught... all of them!

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:38 pm  

sorry to drag the Terry issue up again... buut I was reading something over here that NRL officials do not yet accept that there is any evidence that HRH is perromance enhancing!!!

and I think the inference was that they dont test for it!


and wont be!!

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:54 pm  

underground wrote:

sorry to drag the Terry issue up again... buut I was reading something over here that NRL officials do not yet accept that there is any evidence that HRH is perromance enhancing!!!

and I think the inference was that they dont test for it!


and wont be!!

These comments have come from the RFL asking that all players in this years 4 nations are blood tested. NRL have said that it's up to the players association which probably will veto it to prevent any potential headlines.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:24 pm  

underground wrote:

the only issue is that (according to the reading I have done) the the artificial HRH is only detectable for about 48 hours... which would suggest that the statement by the agency that new techniques and intelligence were responsible for this positive identification... (ie someone who had close contact with Newton and his training regime, gave the agency the 'heads up' the a test should be administered)

this means that users (and those who have gained exactly the same advantage as Newton) will not be detected and get away scott free...

I guess this means that Newton is the one to take the chop so that others think twice now???

In some ways that makes Terry unlucky that he is the chosen example... however... cheaters deserve to be caught... all of them!

I was told it was because he'd refused a urine test as he couldn't go.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:35 pm  

Wadski wrote:

These comments have come from the RFL asking that all players in this years 4 nations are blood tested. NRL have said that it's up to the players association which probably will veto it to prevent any potential headlines.

Anyone refusing, should be ommited from the comp.
They'll probably make excuses as to not being available, but it may give the authorities an idea as to the size of the problem.