Re: New Stadium - Objection Flyer and Web Site : Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:08 am  

The Trip wrote: Tonight's Evening Post 14th April http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 6224458.jp Leeds City Council are fully aware of the development and indeed have contributed their thoughts towards it. This isn't a row between the two councils as the YEP is trying to manufacture, but a row between local residents with a councillor who has aspirations of becoming an MP and the creation of much needed employment opportunities and sports facilities.

The Trip wrote: Tonight's Evening Post 14th April http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 6224458.jp Leeds City Council are fully aware of the development and indeed have contributed their thoughts towards it. This isn't a row between the two councils as the YEP is trying to manufacture, but a row between local residents with a councillor who has aspirations of becoming an MP and the creation of much needed employment opportunities and sports facilities.

Re: New Stadium - Objection Flyer and Web Site : Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:53 am  

Another non-story really but the YEP are clearly sensing something they think is worth writing about over the next few weeks, so are happy to wade in.

This story is once more a tactic to make as much noise as possible with the hope that it makes the objection to the proposal look more wide-spread than it actual is, and of course they are trying hard not to appear to be NIMBY's and not making a great job of doing so IMO, but you can't knock them for having a go!

Andrew Calvert told me last night that he understood that the real active level of objection was limited across these three groups to around 30 to 40 people in reality, which includes the Newmarket Lane residents directly affected.

It is interesting, reading between the lines of the article a little, that they appeared to have decided to drop or been unable to mobilise any real support other than in Methley & Oulton and have not mentioned Stanley (and the areas of Stanley, such as Bottomboat and Moorhouse) that are all closer to the development than either of these communities!

The whole public enquiry thing is nonsense and again they must know that (maybe they don't?) and they know that Leeds or Wakefield City Councils have no power to instigate a public enquiry. Of course the other thing is, it was always highly likely there would be a public enquiry anyway because of the green-belt designation! If and when this does happen, and the project gets called in by the Secretary of States office as expected, they will be back in the paper claiming that they have brought all the pressure and it was them that forced this public enquiry because level of objection is high, blah, blah.

The two, shall I say legitimate, groups among the three listed do have a track record of objecting to anything they and their small group of 'active members' don't like and most of that would appear to be purely NIMBY in origin. They would appear to be like a Daily Mail army for hire and happy to wade in just because the reason most of the people turn up to the meetings in the first place is to moan. I am being a little harsh, because I suspect when they don't have something big to moan about, they get lots of good things done for their community by hard work... and some more moaning!

Re: New Stadium - Objection Flyer and Web Site : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:24 am  

Inflatable_Armadillo wrote:

Another non-story really but the YEP are clearly sensing something they think is worth writing about over the next few weeks, so are happy to wade in.

This story is once more a tactic to make as much noise as possible with the hope that it makes the objection to the proposal look more wide-spread than it actual is, and of course they are trying hard not to appear to be NIMBY's and not making a great job of doing so IMO, but you can't knock them for having a go!

Andrew Calvert told me last night that he understood that the real active level of objection was limited across these three groups to around 30 to 40 people in reality, which includes the Newmarket Lane residents directly affected.

It is interesting, reading between the lines of the article a little, that they appeared to have decided to drop or been unable to mobilise any real support other than in Methley & Oulton and have not mentioned Stanley (and the areas of Stanley, such as Bottomboat and Moorhouse) that are all closer to the development than either of these communities!

The whole public enquiry thing is nonsense and again they must know that (maybe they don't?) and they know that Leeds or Wakefield City Councils have no power to instigate a public enquiry. Of course the other thing is, it was always highly likely there would be a public enquiry anyway because of the green-belt designation! If and when this does happen, and the project gets called in by the Secretary of States office as expected, they will be back in the paper claiming that they have brought all the pressure and it was them that forced this public enquiry because level of objection is high, blah, blah.

The two, shall I say legitimate, groups among the three listed do have a track record of objecting to anything they and their small group of 'active members' don't like and most of that would appear to be purely NIMBY in origin. They would appear to be like a Daily Mail army for hire and happy to wade in just because the reason most of the people turn up to the meetings in the first place is to moan. I am being a little harsh, because I suspect when they don't have something big to moan about, they get lots of good things done for their community by hard work... and some more moaning!

Thanks for all the information you give and also for sharing it with the rest of the forum. It is good to hear comments and reports for someone not directly involved and can give objective information.