Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:43 pm  

upthecats wrote:

He wasn’t down the pecking order in 2016 when he made 27 appearances ALL from the bench! That was under the same coach he’ll be playing for next season...let that sink in....

So you're saying he wasn't behind Sims, Hill, Westerman, Westwood, Hughes, Livett and Philbin in 2016?

Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:49 pm  

FickleFingerOfFate wrote:

So you're saying he wasn't behind Sims, Hill, Westerman, Westwood, Hughes, Livett and Philbin in 2016?

No, I’m saying that the point you and others are making about him being used wrongly as a substitute isn’t a very valid one when Tony Smith gave him 1 start in 40 odd appearances in two seasons.

Would you like to have a wager that he’ll be used more as a sub than a starter for Hull KR next season?

Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:53 pm  

On another note...this current game proving what a near impossible task us lower ended teams have going up against the top sides while ravaged by injuries...

No lack of effort on Huddersfield’s part but just haven’t got enough quality players on the field to be able to stop Saints..

Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:54 pm  

upthecats wrote:

No, I’m saying that the point you and others are making about him being used wrongly as a substitute isn’t a very valid one when Tony Smith gave him 1 start in 40 odd appearances in two seasons.

Would you like to have a wager that he’ll be used more as a sub than a starter for Hull KR next season?

Why is it not a valid point?
Who would he displace for a starting spot?
What I'm saying is he offers very little from the bench and would be better starting.
And yep, I'll wager he starts more than he's benched.

Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:26 pm  

Just looking through the first half of last season, when Chester had just about a fully fit squad...George King took part in 13 of the first 14 games.

He started 4 times...bothe wins against Leeds...London away and HKR at home...probably our two worst defeats of the opening half of the season...

He played 9 times off the bench in a good bunch of results...5 wins...2 point loss away at Cas...two point defeat at home to Warrington, 6 point loss to Saints and an away defeat at Hull.

After 14 rounds we were 3rd in the table...King played a part in that, mostly off the bench...after that injuries struck right across the team, disruptions, loss of form etc...

The reason he’s leaving, if I’m not mistaken is to do with money?

Overall I think Chester was very fair with him and used him pretty well...

Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:45 pm  

I haven’t posted on here for about a year but a couple of things caught my eye recently.
The injury situation when we lost 38-0 to Warrington was used as the reason for the loss yet had CC used everyone who was available to him he could have played a team that was almost the same as the one that beat Warrington 18-8.

Tom Johnstone’s the obvious absentee and he did score a late try in the win earlier in the season. Apart from that though it’s very much like for like ie. Atkins replacing Arundel & Kirmond replacing Pitts. We could even have picked Fifita if we wanted to find another way of sanctioning him.

WIN TEAM VS possible team

Jowitt/Jowitt
Tupou/Tupou
Lyne/Gigot
Arundel/Atkins
Johnstone/Croft
Miller/Miller
Hampshire/Hampshire
Kopczak/Kopczak
K Wood/K Wood
Tanginoa/Tanginoa
Ashurst/Ashurst
Pitts/Kirmond
Westerman/Westerman

J Wood/J Wood
Bachelor/Bachelor
Tangata/Tangata
Navarette/Navarette

Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:24 pm  

Welcome back Avenger...always thought you were a decent poster!

Few clear differences between the two games though...

1) we had home advantage in the first one.

2) conditions in the first game (storm Dennis) and a heavy pitch probably suited us more.

3) we’d had a preseason and not come back to a game with different rules. I know it’s the same for all teams but think we are struggling with it..

4) it was Widdops first game and if I remember he was really poor that day as opposed to last week where him and Austin look to be a pairing that are getting better by the week.

5) Warrington had a week off while we were in the cup the week before...with the demands on the players since the restart an extra week off is a big advantage I’d say.

6) form and confidence...both teams couldn’t be further apart on that score after lockdown...

Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:44 pm  

bellycouldtackle wrote:

King is an 80 minutes work horse who runs great lines, defends well and should always have been starting. I agree he has never been used correctly at Wakey.

How many times during his career do you think he's done an 80 minute stint?

Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:44 pm  

BarnsleyGull wrote:

I was talking - which I thought was obvious - about the players that we can afford....
As has been stated, Warrington decided to release him and he ends up here....
Hope that clears it up for you.

Things are only obvious to the people who understand what your talking about, my reply was to poptart who commented on Warringtons eagerness to get rid of King, my reply then to poptart was why then did we sign King, still with me? it's not difficult if you read it properly, I hope that clears things up for you too, perhaps it might have been easier on your part if you had explained yourself a bit more and not thrown in the unnecessary rolling eyes for effect.

Re: Chester must go now : Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:51 pm  

Whilst we're on the subject of Wire, they stood down Hill, Widdop, Philbin and Clarke and still racked up some points v Hull FC tonight.