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Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 6:03 am  

charlie wrote:

With how things are going on the pitch, the sooner this takeover is complete the better.

We need some fresh enthusiasm brought into the club and quickly.

I agree, but the worry for me is the number talking down everything about the club and saying this takeover will save us when they don't know anything about the guy wanting to buy.
I feel like if it doesn't go their way straight away, they'll just turn on him too.

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 6:21 am  

PopTart wrote:

I agree, but the worry for me is the number talking down everything about the club and saying this takeover will save us when they don't know anything about the guy wanting to buy.
I feel like if it doesn't go their way straight away, they'll just turn on him too.

I get your point, but currently we're heading for the abyss and we as supporters have let it happen.

The team has been slowly dismantled over the last few years and now this is what we're left with. I thought last years team was poor but they would stick 40 on this lot.

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 7:18 am  

Carter brought all the negativity on him self, he went from semi hero to zero in about 2 years in my opinion. He constant bla bla bla about saving the club and his pointless statements and in some cases rants on social media set pressed his self distrust button . The more I listened to him the easier it became to dislike him and his attitude gradually put the club (his club) on its slippery slope. Luckily for him he had a following of support for his woe is the club preaching and his club became supported by a small band of part time accountants who grasped every word and even preached his teachings themselves,
The downfall of the clubs the responsibility of one man and one man only.
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Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 7:41 am  

charlie wrote:

I get your point, but currently we're heading for the abyss and we as supporters have let it happen.

The team has been slowly dismantled over the last few years and now this is what we're left with. I thought last years team was poor but they would stick 40 on this lot.

Oh don't get me wrong. I'm pleased we are in this position. I just think we need to be ready for a slow change and some decisions we don't all like.

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 8:01 am  

PopTart wrote:

Oh don't get me wrong. I'm pleased we are in this position. I just think we need to be ready for a slow change and some decisions we don't all like.

Things will get worse before they improve, I don't think there are any players available, or coaches for that matter, who will massively change our trajectory this year. However, if this guy has the cash and is willing to use it we could do a Leigh next year and be stronger for it in 2025.

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 8:18 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Things will get worse before they improve, I don't think there are any players available, or coaches for that matter, who will massively change our trajectory this year. However, if this guy has the cash and is willing to use it we could do a Leigh next year and be stronger for it in 2025.

This is right. Hopefully it doesn’t come to it but what Leigh did is exactly what we need to do in 2024 if it comes to it. Maybe not so lavishly but still along the same lines.

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 9:12 am  

The thing is it seems mc has had enough wants out,wants his money out if he can, love him or hate him the sad thing for me is his legacy will be this season as it stands in the superleague history books. Nobody probably feels worse than him 10yrs and out of superleague but when he backed chester blindly & got involved in the playing side well we've seen the results. Hope the deal can be sorted, the new guy stays a business man & wakey fan and gets some experienced rl people around him for us to move forward, enjoy the ground and have some respectable rugbyto watch. God knows we need it after this years rubbish!

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 10:39 am  

TALLYWACKER62 wrote:

The thing is it seems mc has had enough wants out,wants his money out if he can, love him or hate him the sad thing for me is his legacy will be this season as it stands in the superleague history books. Nobody probably feels worse than him 10yrs and out of superleague but when he backed chester blindly & got involved in the playing side well we've seen the results. Hope the deal can be sorted, the new guy stays a business man & wakey fan and gets some experienced rl people around him for us to move forward, enjoy the ground and have some respectable rugbyto watch. God knows we need it after this years rubbish!

On the recruitment front. The last two seasons have been really poor and there’s no doubt mistakes have been made… bet if and when the line is drawn under his time…he’d admit some were made too…. However you can sign players but you never really know what you’re getting until they’ve rocked up! (Or not)
In some cases…

This is just my opinion… but if we end up under new management the foundations have been started that will enable the new management/owners to push the club forward…. By that I am talking about our elite academy licence (something MA did a fine job with)the new footlights, playing surface , big screen… not to mention the re purchasing of the ground without which no work would of been started in either thenorth or east stands….
And while debt has been incurred on the purchase of the ground , if smart … the new guy has the opportunity to turn the east stand into something that will hopefully make money thus enabling us to pay this debt off over time…..

So while these last two seasons have been a disaster on the playing front…. I think his legacy will be that he got the ball rolling of the pitch if not on it…

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 12:22 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Except for the £200k rent. That wasn't an opinion.

To put a bit of context, the MKM Stadium (home of Hull FC & City) earned rental income of £1.4million from its tenants in there last set of accounts. They have obviously have 2 bigger 'tenants' than any potential SMC that could end up owning Belle Vue.

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Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Sat May 27, 2023 12:29 pm  

Mark Voakes wrote:

To put a bit of context, the MKM Stadium (home of Hull FC & City) earned rental income of £1.4million from its tenants in there last set of accounts. They have obviously have 2 bigger 'tenants' than any potential SMC that could end up owning Belle Vue.

That's fair enough. And the football team will have to pay rent.
But if Wakefield Trinity have to pay a rent it will be to themselves......and not to Carter or Minards.