Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:44 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

He's just well past his best now and I reckon last nights standard performance hot on the heels of similar v Fev will see Hall and Langi take the centre positions next time out.

Good to see we have a fall guy to blame for the defeat .Every body on about Lynn running in to touch,help by 3 plus Catalan players..Nothing said about Murphy howler behind the try line for there first try ,Nothing said about Smith holding on to the ball and getting smashed on the sixth tackle about 30 yards from is try line .In the next set of six Catalan scored .In fact Catalan scored four trys by Wakefieds mistakes in our half.Stood against a scout for Wakefield, at the match and he said well into the second half ,he was very disappointed with Langi but would give him a few matches .Pity some of you can not do the same with Lynn .Do not think he was any were near the worst player on the pitch .You can not expect Centre or wingers to look good when we do everything in the middle of the park at half pace

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Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:25 pm  

alegend wrote:

Good to see we have a fall guy to blame for the defeat .Every body on about Lynn running in to touch,help by 3 plus Catalan players..Nothing said about Murphy howler behind the try line for there first try ,Nothing said about Smith holding on to the ball and getting smashed on the sixth tackle about 30 yards from is try line .In the next set of six Catalan scored .In fact Catalan scored four trys by Wakefieds mistakes in our half.Stood against a scout for Wakefield, at the match and he said well into the second half ,he was very disappointed with Langi but would give him a few matches .Pity some of you can not do the same with Lynn .Do not think he was any were near the worst player on the pitch .You can not expect Centre or wingers to look good when we do everything in the middle of the park at half pace

I agree with you.
That was probably Lynne's only mistake.
A few other players made significant mistakes.

Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:48 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I agree with you.
That was probably Lynne's only mistake.
A few other players made significant mistakes.

It was Lynes only mistake but let’s not sugar coat it. It was the biggest mistake and we were in the ascendency in a critical part of the game. That completely swung the momentum.

Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:07 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Just watched the TJ try where Lineham went for intercept. Clearly a forward pass, amazes me how not one of wakeys 3 marginal forwards got missed yet that one wasn’t picked up by the officials. I can’t wait to see the highlights. Looks like 2/3 of the Catalan try’s had questions on them.

For the actual game. I’m disappointed but not too down.

I said a few days ago Catalans would attack us on the edges and they did just that. Our edge and kick defence needs some work.

I thought in the middle we were mostly equal to Catalans. There were no line breaks I saw certainly down the middle. Defence overall was good. Certainly something to tidy up on the edges though.

We had a 10 minute spell where we gave the game away. Starting with Lyne running out towards touchline on 1st tackle. Then a few forward passes, knock on and getting caught on the last. It’s such a shame that we weren’t smarter thst period in second half.

I think the in field kicking needs to be better too.

I thought Grant was inconsistent in his reffing and use of six agains. It was infuriating the amount of wrestling that was happening.

Prime example - Whitbread landing fast on his front tried to get up 3 times to be held down and no six again. Yet late in thst second half a Catalan player landed on front close to line and tried to get up (soon as he got down) and ref couldn’t wait to wave his hands for six again. I absolutely hate that rule, it’s so inconsistent and just makes the referees look bias. The sooner they scrap it the better. I won’t get started on the offsides.

Regardless though we need to be smarter. I don’t think it’s cause for concern just yet. Thought we were mostly a match for Catalans. Just need to make some small improvements.

That right edge needs addressing though.

What’s up with that pitch? Doesn’t bode well for us having to play on it numerous times. Is there an issue with it?

Couldn't agree more about the six again rule. It stinks. I think there's an unconscious bias applied with it as well. Grant murdered us with six agains and often I was left scratching my head at the difference was to what he was l;etting catalan get away with. There was one instance second half where a Wakey player won the ruck and a Catalan player was left on the deck behind the Wakey man on the floor and the Catalan player grabbed the wakefield player (who was on his knees about to regain his feet) and pulled him back towards him in a second effort and it still didn't get given as a six again. Not to mention the amount of times they were holding on to players and having hands in when Wakey players had regained their feet. Thought thy were very messy in the ruck and Grant just let it go all day. Evene radio leeds mentioned the reffing in that respect.

Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:17 pm  

Pat Bateman wrote:

Rewatched the game today. Our energy in the forwards was so sluggish, literally for the first 19 minutes hardly our forwards took a drive. I didn’t notice at the time but Atoni was either playing crook or really fatigued, was properly sluggish. Proctor looked perpetually knackered too. Our back 5 pretty much did the ground work, so wonder why our kick chase was laboured on any decent kick we actually did.

Turned to my Dad after the first 15 minutes and said I didn't think Atoni had carried the ball yet. And we couldn't remember when he had. It was odd. Proctor was busy in defence but again, didn't seem to carry the ball many times. I could be wrong. I hope they improve. Atoni looked decent in a couple of the friendlies so hopefully just an off day.

Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:26 pm  

alegend wrote:

Good to see we have a fall guy to blame for the defeat .Every body on about Lynn running in to touch,help by 3 plus Catalan players..Nothing said about Murphy howler behind the try line for there first try ,Nothing said about Smith holding on to the ball and getting smashed on the sixth tackle about 30 yards from is try line .In the next set of six Catalan scored .

you missed this earlier post then?

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Same old, same old. At least three forward pass infringements. Last clutch of straw slipped away by a typical Lyne brain-fart and that crazy 5th tackle run from acting half by Smith within our 20m.

Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:19 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

you missed this earlier post then?

Sorry I did miss your post ,but just making the point of why pick on one player When 4 or 5 players make mistakes that lead to trys .The

Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:01 am  

alegend wrote:

Good to see we have a fall guy to blame for the defeat .Every body on about Lynn running in to touch,help by 3 plus Catalan players..Nothing said about Murphy howler behind the try line for there first try ,Nothing said about Smith holding on to the ball and getting smashed on the sixth tackle about 30 yards from is try line .In the next set of six Catalan scored .In fact Catalan scored four trys by Wakefieds mistakes in our half.Stood against a scout for Wakefield, at the match and he said well into the second half ,he was very disappointed with Langi but would give him a few matches .Pity some of you can not do the same with Lynn .Do not think he was any were near the worst player on the pitch .You can not expect Centre or wingers to look good when we do everything in the middle of the park at half pace

Without sounding pedantic Lyne was at fault for Johnstones 2nd try. He didn’t even compete for that ball, just stood there with his arms out to catch the ball while Johnstone jumped above him and collected the ball. The whole team simply need to be better at defending kicks on that showing.

Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:47 am  

Agree that some players seem to be blamed for mistakes more than others who make similar mistakes. Hardly anything said in any forum about the Murphy howler. Imagine the hysterical condemnation if that had been Lineham .

Re: Wakefield Trinity Vs Catalan Dragons : Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:53 am  

Borderboy wrote:

Agree that some players seem to be blamed for mistakes more than others who make similar mistakes. Hardly anything said in any forum about the Murphy howler. Imagine the hysterical condemnation if that had been Lineham .

More excellent play from Davies than howler from Murphy. 98% of the time we get a set restart on the 20. Either way it shouldn’t of happened. I thought our back 5 took the ball up really well, took a lot of pressure of a fatigued looking pack at times.