Re: Keegan Hirst : Sat May 26, 2018 8:14 am  

vastman wrote:

And right on cue - so obvious to ‘almost’ everyone.

For the record I don’t rate Hirst either and he drops the ball way to much for SL standard player - the point however was let’s just enjoy the moment but then that’s now why your on here is it...

Haha go enjoy the moment over on the Widnes thread created, don’t comment on a thread created specifically about a player and someone’s view on him just because you don’t think it should be said.

I am glad put the bit about him not being super league standard though.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Sat May 26, 2018 8:30 am  

Trinity18 wrote:

Homme Vaste - you’re 100% correct and CheshireCat/Vastman you baffle me with the drivel you put.

Apologies for not having anything negative to say about Keegan Hirst, as for Cheshire and vasty I'm not sure how they'll respond to being accused of talking drivel by the actual King of drivel on RLfans

Re: Keegan Hirst : Sat May 26, 2018 10:12 am  

Trinity18 wrote:

Going to be the bigger man.

Back to Keegan - I like him as a player but Homme Vaste is right, he cannot catch a ball. I did comment on this along with England a few weeks ago.

Well, looks like you've won that one. !

Re: Keegan Hirst : Tue May 29, 2018 12:57 pm  

Homme vast is correct. Keegan does lose possession too frequently and he is not sl standard IMO. And that part has not improved in one and a half seasons.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Tue May 29, 2018 4:42 pm  

Keegan started this season really well and was one of the best props for a couple of games but he has gone off the boil a bit recently. His technique when he runs the ball in is a little strange and his catching technique as well which results in a few errors.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Tue May 29, 2018 7:01 pm  

Some times I wonder if people smoke crack before coming on here

I've not looked at the sats but I don't believe keegan drops the ball more than any one else

He absolutely is a SL standard player and I'm very glad he is signed to wakefield trinity

Re: Keegan Hirst : Tue May 29, 2018 8:20 pm  

musson wrote:

Some times I wonder if people smoke crack before coming on here

I've not looked at the sats but I don't believe keegan drops the ball more than any one else

He absolutely is a SL standard player and I'm very glad he is signed to wakefield trinity

He does I’m afraid watch Trinity TV. It’s not so much the knock ins it’s how many are unforced, seriously it’s dire. Just watch the last game against Cas he dropped two cold and put us totally on the back foot and was quickly withdrawn.

In every other respect I’d say he probably is just about SL standard but not being able to retain the ball is a real issue.

He clearly knows he has an issue because if you watch him he has a very odd way of taking the ball as if he’s going through a process.

I understand why many people want Keegan to succeed for various reasons. However despite being a superb physical specimen he’s spent nearly all his career in the lower leagues and I suspect this is the reason why.

Just my opinion it’s not the heroin talking

Re: Keegan Hirst : Tue May 29, 2018 8:51 pm  

vastman wrote:

And right on cue - so obvious to ‘almost’ everyone.

For the record I don’t rate Hirst either and he drops the ball way to much for SL standard player - the point however was let’s just enjoy the moment but then that’s now why your on here is it...

I think you're dead right here.

On both counts, especially the first one.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Wed May 30, 2018 8:27 am  

I've looked at the stats. As always you can make them show what you want to show but, on the basis of errors per carry, Hirst makes the same as Ashurst and fewer than England and Pauli Pauli. For comparison, Miller makes more errors per carry than Hirst and BJB makes more than twice as many! Supporters might have their own reasons for being down on Hirst but, "making too many errors" shouldn't be one of them. Personally, I think he adds an extra element when he comes and is one of the few players always looking to create chances with the offload.

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Re: Keegan Hirst : Wed May 30, 2018 8:39 am  

I like Keegan and I think he is well worth his place.

I think the dropped ball thing has come because he can sometimes drop as an unforced error. PP is the same. Neither are bad enough to not play them but both could work on ball security, as I'm sure they do.
Miller as an example has much more difficult passes to catch in more difficult positions.