Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:33 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

I just thought the same as soon as I looked at it, but I have just done exactly what he has done on google maps and used to the same scale it comes out more or less the same as his... Maybe I was underestimating the size of the plot?

Correct but some people mouth off before checking it out, must be an Aspen close thing.

I love the way some people assume they are experts whilst those who do it for a living aren't and wouldn't have checked it out for themselves - yes Box is everything people say he is but even he isn't that daft.

Land can be very decieving and always looks smaller than it actually is.

Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:43 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

Correct but some people mouth off before checking it out, must be an Aspen close thing.

I love the way some people assume they are experts whilst those who do it for a living aren't and wouldn't have checked it out for themselves - yes Box is everything people say he is but even he isn't that daft.

Land can be very decieving and always looks smaller than it actually is.

Hang on a minute MR Town planner.
You've managed to SQUEEZE in the bare bones footprint of BV onto the patch of land, well done, take a bow, really.
But seriously, there isnt room for a gnat to take a pee, let alone properly service a SL standard RL ground.

BV in its current state isnt exactly blessed with room but, that is tighter than a tight Yorkshireman two days before pat day.
But, well done for trying.
Perhaps on your next graphic, you could illustrate where access would be, not to mention the parking that YOU deem so unnecessary.
Eastmoor Dragons have more space than you are suggesting Trinity need

Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:47 pm  

Yeah lets buy up half the surrounding area, re-route half the roads as the current ones are not suitable AND build the stadium. You are kidding yourself, we can't even get enough money out of them for a tart up of Belle Vue let alone that. It is a stalling tactic and nothing more than that. And the more people try to justify it the more of a success that tactic will be.

Vasty, sorry but it really isn't viable.

Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:51 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Yeah lets buy up half the surrounding area, re-route half the roads as the current ones are not suitable AND build the stadium. You are kidding yourself, we can't even get enough money out of them for a tart up of Belle Vue let alone that. It is a stalling tactic and nothing more than that. And the more people try to justify it the more of a success that tactic will be.

Vasty, sorry but it really isn't viable.

I know its not viable mate, was just commenting on the fact I probably underestimated the plot size in the first place. It`s a complete non starter for me, not even worth discussing, yet here we are

Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:55 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Hang on a minute MR Town planner.
You've managed to SQUEEZE in the bare bones footprint of BV onto the patch of land, well done, take a bow, really.
But seriously, there isnt room for a gnat to take a pee, let alone properly service a SL standard RL ground.

BV in its current state isnt exactly blessed with room but, that is tighter than a tight Yorkshireman two days before pat day.
But, well done for trying.
Perhaps on your next graphic, you could illustrate where access would be, not to mention the parking that YOU deem so unnecessary.
Eastmoor Dragons have more space than you are suggesting Trinity need

Oh give up man you're just plain wrong as the images prove but you've gobbed of now and can't admit your wrong, sad.

I to was doubtful at first but I visited the site and did the checks and it works out. Sorry if reality doesn't suit you but there is clearly more than enough room despite your attempts to deny the obvious. Truth is you can fit at least three 'bare bones footprint of BV' on that site which is more than you can do at BV! Get a grip.

Oh and stop twisting what I said, I never said parking wasn't required I said 3000 places were not required, try reading what people actually post.

I honestly don't get the aggression I'm simply illustrating the facts, frankly I don't care that much where the new stadium is so long as we get one and we survive - I'd have though you'd have felt the same and at least given it some serious thought rather than slagging off the messenger. I was only trying to add to the debate

Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:59 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Yeah lets buy up half the surrounding area, re-route half the roads as the current ones are not suitable AND build the stadium. You are kidding yourself, we can't even get enough money out of them for a tart up of Belle Vue let alone that. It is a stalling tactic and nothing more than that. And the more people try to justify it the more of a success that tactic will be.

Vasty, sorry but it really isn't viable.

Look if you can't debate it seriously then why bother? Yes it is viable but yes you would need to buy up some surrounding properties and thus if you'd actually bothered to read my posts I clearly state that this Council neither has the will or the desire. That however doesn't mean it isn't feesible because from someone who works in the industry it is.

I'm not Box/Rodders or Vasty but if it makes you feel better because you're losing the argument then fine accuse away

Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:08 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

Look if you can't debate it seriously then why bother? Yes it is viable but yes you would need to buy up some surrounding properties and thus if you'd actually bothered to read my posts I clearly state that this Council neither has the will or the desire. That however doesn't mean it isn't feesible because from someone who works in the industry it is.

I'm not Box/Rodders or Vasty but if it makes you feel better because you're losing the argument then fine accuse away

And from someone who also works in the industry, it wouldn't get through to the planning for starters, so no it isn't viable. But you never could admit to being wrong could you Vastman?

Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:09 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

Oh give up man you're just plain wrong as the images prove but you've gobbed of now and can't admit your wrong, sad.

I to was doubtful at first but I visited the site and did the checks and it works out. Sorry if reality doesn't suit you but there is clearly more than enough room despite your attempts to deny the obvious. Truth is you can fit at least three 'bare bones footprint of BV' on that site which is more than you can do at BV! Get a grip.

Oh and stop twisting what I said, I never said parking wasn't required I said 3000 places were not required, try reading what people actually post.

I honestly don't get the aggression I'm simply illustrating the facts, frankly I don't care that much where the new stadium is so long as we get one and we survive - I'd have though you'd have felt the same and at least given it some serious thought rather than slagging off the messenger. I was only trying to add to the debate

I'll disregard the personal stuff and accept that perhaps I was a bit hasty in criticising your map, because as I said above, I don't wish to make this personal and really do admire your optimism, but the simple fact remains that there are already two much better sites suitable for the stadium development, that don't involve compulsory purchases on peoples houses, land and businesses and if this shower of sheeite that has presided over this debacle for the past 10 years were ever serious about getting us a new stadium built, then it would have happened long before now !!
You only have to look at what has happened to Headingley over the past 18 months to realise that...where there's a will there's a way... where there isn't then it simply won't happen.

Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:22 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

As I've clearly stated it would require the purchasing and demolition of some adjacent properties probably through compulsory purchase but it is possible with drive and ambition.

When have Wakefield Council shown that?

Re: Being aware. : Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:42 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

When have Wakefield Council shown that?

C'mon don't spoil the fun, these crazy kids have reinvigorated me with their boundless optimism for an absolutely non starter of idea.

Buying and knocking down houses etc, we can't even get anybody to stump up for a lick of paint at Belle Vue lol.