Re: England team : Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:53 pm  

I think Johnstone would have scored at least two of the tries Makinson did, and there was one instance where Makinson got the ball on his 40m line and ducked back inside, and I thought Johnstone would have raced away, but it has to be said that Makinson saved about 3 tries that I'm not sure Johnstone would have done. A superb game from him.

They are different players, with Johnstone more of an out and out winger, but Makinson's all-round game puts him just ahead for me at international level because you don't get the open field that suits Johnstone so much more. Johnstone's time will come though.

Just out of interest, how much does it matter to a winger which wing they are on? Could they comfortably swap, because I'd put him ahead of McGillvary as a threat.

Re: England team : Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:11 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

I think Johnstone would have scored at least two of the tries Makinson did, and there was one instance where Makinson got the ball on his 40m line and ducked back inside, and I thought Johnstone would have raced away, but it has to be said that Makinson saved about 3 tries that I'm not sure Johnstone would have done. A superb game from him.

They are different players, with Johnstone more of an out and out winger, but Makinson's all-round game puts him just ahead for me at international level because you don't get the open field that suits Johnstone so much more. Johnstone's time will come though.

Just out of interest, how much does it matter to a winger which wing they are on? Could they comfortably swap, because I'd put him ahead of McGillvary as a threat.

If for any reason McGillvery didn't play or he gave Tom a go, I'd imagine Makinson would go back to the wing he normally plays on, the right and Tom goes to his natural side. On your other point, I'm not sure how much difference it matters but it must have an effect when it comes to doing everything you've learned but on the opposite side of the field. Like finishing a difficult acrobatic try with the defense on top of you, means you may have to change hands you place the ball down with, where Tom usually swan dives and gets it down with his left, on the other side it'd be your right if I've got that correct.

Re: England team : Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:31 am  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

Now these comments don’t look too smart, I’d expect some humble pie to be eaten.

Who will you be supporting in the third test?
Still been traitors or crawling back to the England camp?

Haven't watched either of the games and probably will give the last one a miss too, unless our guy gets in the team.

Re: England team : Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:17 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Haven't watched either of the games and probably will give the last one a miss too, unless our guy gets in the team.

Well it's you that's missing out then.

Re: England team : Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:51 am  

I was one of those who felt Tom was unlucky to miss out when Makinson got the nod, but after yesterday I respect that decision.
The fact is they're both cracking wingers and like it's been said on here, Tom's time will come, but I suspect at the expense of McGilvray. I think he's an excellent winger but he surely got picked on his WC performances rather than league form.
Anyway, I don't really care, I'd rather look forward to TJ performing for Trinity.

Re: England team : Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:18 am  

Wilde 3 wrote:

Well it's you that's missing out then.

Missing out? Joy of the close season. Two lovely weekend afternoons out and about enjoying life. Was a real bummer.

Re: England team : Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:45 am  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

I think Johnstone would have scored at least two of the tries Makinson did, and there was one instance where Makinson got the ball on his 40m line and ducked back inside, and I thought Johnstone would have raced away, but it has to be said that Makinson saved about 3 tries that I'm not sure Johnstone would have done. A superb game from him.

They are different players, with Johnstone more of an out and out winger, but Makinson's all-round game puts him just ahead for me at international level because you don't get the open field that suits Johnstone so much more. Johnstone's time will come though.

Just out of interest, how much does it matter to a winger which wing they are on? Could they comfortably swap, because I'd put him ahead of McGillvary as a threat.

Makinson has grabbed his chance with both hands and whilst he rightly gets all the accolades for scoring a hat trick, I was more impressed with a couple of his defensive efforts, absolutely stunning efforts.
Still gutted for Johnstone and on current form Makinson will take some shifting.
On the other side of the England three quarters, Gildart had a shocker and McGillvery was anonymous, (not helped by Gildart being inside him).
The England side look really tough to beat and it would be great to be having a 3 test series against the Aussies to really test how far they have progressed.

Re: England team : Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:53 am  

Although I don’t think Makinson did any more than a number of other SL wingers would the fact is he did it. Quite rightly that shirt is now his to loose and I salute him for his performances.

Good thing is it now forces out Tommy to up his game even more which is great news for us.

Re: England team : Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:57 am  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

I think Johnstone would have scored at least two of the tries Makinson did, and there was one instance where Makinson got the ball on his 40m line and ducked back inside, and I thought Johnstone would have raced away, but it has to be said that Makinson saved about 3 tries that I'm not sure Johnstone would have done. A superb game from him.

They are different players, with Johnstone more of an out and out winger, but Makinson's all-round game puts him just ahead for me at international level because you don't get the open field that suits Johnstone so much more. Johnstone's time will come though.

Just out of interest, how much does it matter to a winger which wing they are on? Could they comfortably swap, because I'd put him ahead of McGillvary as a threat.

JM is still a potent player but I’m fairly certain he can’t score much from his own half anymore and certainly not length of the field - he’s lost some pace for certain.

You’d expect Bennett to give TJ a go but I don’t think he will - he likes nothing more than to confound.

Re: England team : Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:59 am  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

Now these comments don’t look too smart, I’d expect some humble pie to be eaten.

Who will you be supporting in the third test?
Still been traitors or crawling back to the England camp?

Why are you bothered France wernt playing yesterday