Re: Are you prepared for what might be ? : Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:06 pm  

PopTart wrote:

But you are trying to make out that everything that isn't an injury, and some that are, are Chesters fault.
I'm pointing out that we are down on numbers through nobody's fault with the exception of maybe Fifita, and that is the main reason we are not getting results.

You don't seem to be able to grasp the fact PT that injuries apart, those players that take the field are playing a type of rugby of a very inferior style that is NOT going to produce points. If all but thirteen members of our squad were out injured then we would still be lacking tactics that would win the game. THAT IS DOWN TO BAD COACHING!!!!

Re: Are you prepared for what might be ? : Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:42 am  

Some of our better recent games was with Randall on the field first half when the going was tough followed by woods who could exploit the tiring defences ,now woods is made to do loads more tackling which negates his Attacking skills a lot .And as a little side note our pack was up to the job at that time as well which added to the mix and gave everyone that bit longer with ball in hand .You have to question the back room staff for letting players like mcshane ,pauli,and more get so far out of shape in the first place ,mcshane in particular has turned himself around and is one of the standout hookers in our game ,and don’t get me started on hickey .We do seem to be a bit of a holiday club on the fitness front and some of the players take advantage of that as can be seen this season as well .These aren’t tales or hearsay of the likes of Pauli’s eating and drinking binges this is fact I can see with my own eyes . You’ve got the majority of the team coming out of lockdown looking the part and then other looking like they been lauding it up at the drive through once too often.Simply not good enough in this modern era ,especially as the game is so fast at the moment .

Re: Are you prepared for what might be ? : Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:52 am  

vastman wrote:

Don’t get this. We fundamentally have a good team. We have an experienced coach. We have also not been able to put out a settled team in over two seasons. On a limited budget that is a killer.

Where people think we are going to magic the money neede to buy the players never seems to get addressed, I’m really not sure what fantasy world some posters live in,

The simple fact is we are low on numbers and low on confidence. An improvement on the former will lead to the eventual return of the latter.

Again I sometimes wonder what game some people claimed to have watched through the years. I have often seen wholesale changes to a team cause disasters. Likewise I’ve seen form and seasons change dramatically on one result or one often underwhelming signing.

It’s obvious why CC is struggling to me. Injuries and loss of form to key players. If those reasons weren't so blatantly obvious I’d be worried.

As it is I’m no more alarmed than I am every season. I support the most under funded, facility lacking unglamorous team in SL, I accept what comes with that and so should the rest of you. Worrying and moaning solves nothing.

Hear hear!!!!

Re: Are you prepared for what might be ? : Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:55 am  

Your spot on KETTYKAT

Re: Are you prepared for what might be ? : Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:59 am  

15 month's of injury excuse is down to bad coaching.When the player comes back he never gets back to the form he showed before the injury

Re: Are you prepared for what might be ? : Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:14 am  

Know I keep banging on about fitness of some of the players coming back ,but our back room staff should be well placed to if not stop it happening in the first place, get it sorted ASAP. Chester himself was in the Wigan structures long enough to know what it takes , Gilmour was in a cracking saints side, so knows the crack and on a different note Dickinson was an old style prop who never took a backward step on the field .So between them they should have a good sound understanding of what is required to not only to compete at this level but to thrive on and off the field .

[PopTart]

Re: Are you prepared for what might be ? : Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:28 am  

Kettykat wrote:

Know I keep banging on about fitness of some of the players coming back ,but our back room staff should be well placed to if not stop it happening in the first place, get it sorted ASAP. Chester himself was in the Wigan structures long enough to know what it takes , Gilmour was in a cracking saints side, so knows the crack and on a different note Dickinson was an old style prop who never took a backward step on the field .So between them they should have a good sound understanding of what is required to not only to compete at this level but to thrive on and off the field .

Knowing how it should be, and being able to set the structure up and make a change in the club are two different things.
Those two clubs had money on their side too.

Re: Are you prepared for what might be ? : Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:01 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Knowing how it should be, and being able to set the structure up and make a change in the club are two different things.
Those two clubs had money on their side too.

I know pop tart but work ethics don’t cost money, yes modern facilities are a pipe dream for us at this present time but that shouldn’t stop paid players wanting to rip it up for the club and badge.I know if I’d have been a forward getting battered week in week out whilst watching pauli loafing about in back play i would have been miffed to say the least .Ive never knocked the team for trying but it makes my blood boil when I see players not wanting to get stuck in and help their team mates out .We’re never going to field a team bristling with superstars pop tart ,I get that ,but I’ll happily watch a team of triers everyday of the week , whatever the results .

[PopTart]

Re: Are you prepared for what might be ? : Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:04 pm  

Kettykat wrote:

I know pop tart but work ethics don’t cost money, yes modern facilities are a pipe dream for us at this present time but that shouldn’t stop paid players wanting to rip it up for the club and badge.I know if I’d have been a forward getting battered week in week out whilst watching pauli loafing about in back play i would have been miffed to say the least .Ive never knocked the team for trying but it makes my blood boil when I see players not wanting to get stuck in and help their team mates out .We’re never going to field a team bristling with superstars pop tart ,I get that ,but I’ll happily watch a team of triers everyday of the week , whatever the results .

Absolutely agree.
I'm very much being the mantra 'if you can't be the best in the room, be the hardest worker'

Sometimes you have someone with specific skills that are worth covering. PP could have been that guy but he slowed down on the big lad attacking play so became high maintenance.