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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:42 am  
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Personally, I'd rather have Miller than Hampshire at 6.
There is no doubt Hampshire is an athlete but its how you use it that counts and Miller is better at that in my opinion.
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Personally, I'd rather have Miller than Hampshire at 6.
There is no doubt Hampshire is an athlete but its how you use it that counts and Miller is better at that in my opinion.
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Having read all the comments in this thread, it is very odd that our current, more senior half back in Miller, is rarely mentioned.

I think his performances towards the end of the season did pick up, as well as others.

However, I do think Hampshire does beat him with the kicking game and passing, not to mention speed. He is also a few years younger and with more time on his hands to develop further

Rocky's kicking did fall off a bit towards the end, but looking st his goal.kicking, he looks like he rushes them a bit sometimes.

With my comment on the third paragraph, is Miller guaranteed to start alongside William's, and if so, should he be?


They are very similar styles indeed. The way I see it, is that Miller is 28 and Hampshire is 25. Miller has had 6 seasons with us and almost all his games, probably around 150, have been played in the halves, and mainly alongside good organisers. In this time, he has had time to develop his game, but yet we still see those hospital passes coming out often, yet Hampshire has had 3 seasons with us, half the amount of games, but within those games, played in several other positions, without having a long consistency run there like others.

Don't get me wrong, in his day, Miller is as good and dangerous running half back in super league, but is very inconsistent unfortunately.

Over and above this, he is a local lad, which is useful if we ever have to juggle our quota.
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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:57 am  
After re-watching the Salford game and seeing just how comfortable Brad Walker looked in the halves and the fact that he created so much and made it look so effortless and with playing all his junior rugby in the halves, it makes me think if after all this time in our search for a half have we been missing a perfectly good one right under our noses?

I know it is only half a game but for him to fit in to the side like that and play like he has been in the side for a few seasons is almost unheard of in that position.
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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:57 am  
[quote="vastman"]I wouldn’t argue with you.

Very few players are true masters of their trade, less so HB’’s. Some of the Aussies often touted on here aren’t even close. Personally I’m yet to be convinced that Sam Williams is any kind of upgrade. I honestly believe people are viewing his last stint with the club through rose tinted specs.

I agree Vastman. I too think Sam Williams is not an upgrade no matter what anybody says He is slow & yet we always sign HB's that are slow if we're spending that kind of money there must be an alternative somewhere
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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:11 am  
What kind of money are we spending?
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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:39 am  
https://www.superleague.co.uk/stats

Look at the stats for the 2017 season, butcalso bear in mind that of his 24 games for us, probably a third were from the bench.

Compare to Finn who played the whole season, and Miller, who missed half a dozen games a so, through injury
https://www.superleague.co.uk/stats

Look at the stats for the 2017 season, butcalso bear in mind that of his 24 games for us, probably a third were from the bench.

Compare to Finn who played the whole season, and Miller, who missed half a dozen games a so, through injury
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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:44 pm  
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You are not talking about the same position.
I don't want Miller to run a game. I want the 7 to do that.
I want him to run at the line, pass at the right time and inspire the team. I think he does that better than Hampshire.
Can't see the problem though. If we get a decent 7 they can compete for the 6 role and will push each other. But Miller has the starting spot for me right now.

Agreed, Miller is defo a 6, its his running game and off the cuff play is where he excels
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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:54 pm  
How about Jowitt kicking ?
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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:27 pm  
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What kind of money are we spending?


He won’t come cheap, no experienced Aussies do these days. That’s not to say some aren’t worth it because they are but some definitely aren’t but all cost.
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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:05 pm  
Mr Carter said the Sky money had come down because of the 240 thousand pounds each S L club as got to pay back because of breach of contract
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Re: Goal kicking : Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:27 pm  
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Mr Carter said the Sky money had come down because of the 240 thousand pounds each S L club as got to pay back because of breach of contract

Thats more than the salarie cap! Sure you've got your figures right?
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