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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:39 pm  
As HB pairings go Rooney and Jefferies were probably our best pairing and Rooney was a superb kicker of the ball
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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:02 pm  
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As HB pairings go Rooney and Jefferies were probably our best pairing and Rooney was a superb kicker of the ball


Rooney couldn't defend, Brough could, Jefferies in-between, good partnership all the same.
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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:56 pm  
1. Halpenny
2 Johnstone
3. Domic
4. Lyne
5. JD
6, Smith
7. Brough
8. Fifita
9. Aiton
10, Korkidas
11. Kirmond
12, Solomona
13. Ellis

Picked players on how good they were for Wakefield but also best in position.
So Solomona beat Ali as they played a similar position. Kirmond got in for his effectiveness on the right.

BJB was unlucky not to be in but JD needed to be in somewhere and I decided Ellis did enough at Wakefield to get a place.

Halfpenny in at fullback but I would have liked to include Grix. In attack we've never been better than when he was there. Less so in defence.
As Brough was covering GK, Smith was in over Rooney.
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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:00 pm  
Somewhat surprised that, as far as I know, no one Has suggested Mathers at full back. Not the best full back we've had in my opinion, but he did have quite a spell as a decent attacking fb.
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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:11 pm  
lampyboy wrote:
Surprised no one thought Monty worthy of a place.
Good solid and no nonsense performer.


Considering his rep I thought he was pretty underwhelming at best and he nearly screwed us over with that ridiculous sending off.
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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:43 pm  
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Somewhat surprised that, as far as I know, no one Has suggested Mathers at full back. Not the best full back we've had in my opinion, but he did have quite a spell as a decent attacking fb.


Its all to do with circumstances. If we are honest most of us would say Grix was the best FB, his stats say he was but nobody is mentioning him. Why? He was very popular on here until he committed the worst cock up in our SL history and I do think it was. Regardless of all the good stuff he did he will only be remembered for that and won’t be forgiven by many.

Mathers was an inconsistent player in an inconsistent team so opinions of him are, well, inconsistent.

Blaymire, consistent team and so on.

Truth is most of our FB’s have been ok but none were outstanding. We’ve been lucky to have no stinkers but as yet nobody of the standard of TJ, Kirmo or Ellis in their respective positions. Let’s hope Jowitt is the one.
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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:48 pm  
PopTart wrote:
1. Halpenny
2 Johnstone
3. Domic
4. Lyne
5. JD
6, Smith
7. Brough
8. Fifita
9. Aiton
10, Korkidas
11. Kirmond
12, Solomona
13. Ellis

Picked players on how good they were for Wakefield but also best in position.
So Solomona beat Ali as they played a similar position. Kirmond got in for his effectiveness on the right.

BJB was unlucky not to be in but JD needed to be in somewhere and I decided Ellis did enough at Wakefield to get a place.

Halfpenny in at fullback but I would have liked to include Grix. In attack we've never been better than when he was there. Less so in defence.
As Brough was covering GK, Smith was in over Rooney.


Best in position but JD on the wing? I find that a strange one. I don’t think he’d get a game on the wing with the squad we have now.
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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:09 pm  
vastman wrote:
Correct.

Brough was pure magic for two seasons, never had a bad game. He played his heart out and single handed won games. Had we kept him I believe we’d have won something, I never for one moment believed Smith would. Smith was full of ability but this idea that he led the team around is nonsense imo. It was Sykes who did all the hard work and when he wasn’t there neither was Smith.

I’m sure some will disagree with me but to me he’s a player who gets far more credit than he deserves, especially for his second stint.

He was by no stretch a disaster but the best we’ve had in SL!


I actually thought Smith was underrated for much of his first spell, and got a lot of unwarranted stick from fans. It wasn’t until he’d gone we realised what we had. His second spell was nothing special. The difference between the two for me was that whilst Smith had a fantastic rugby brain, he needed the players around him to play their part, whereas Brough could create for himself and win you a game on his own. I’ve always felt that fans have judged our half backs since by his standard, leaving us feeling let down because they’re not at that level.
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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:10 pm  
1. Mathers
2. Johnstone
3. Tupou
4. Domic
5. BJB
6. Rooney
7. Brough
8. Amor
9. Aiton
10. Fifita
11. Lauittiiti
12. Solomona
13. JD

14. Kirmond
15. Ellis
16. Korkidas
17. Moore
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Re: All Time Superleague 13 : Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:46 am  
imwakefieldtillidie wrote:
I actually thought Smith was underrated for much of his first spell, and got a lot of unwarranted stick from fans. It wasn’t until he’d gone we realised what we had. His second spell was nothing special. The difference between the two for me was that whilst Smith had a fantastic rugby brain, he needed the players around him to play their part, whereas Brough could create for himself and win you a game on his own. I’ve always felt that fans have judged our half backs since by his standard, leaving us feeling let down because they’re not at that level.


There is no doubt Smith could play and as you say he had an outstanding RL brain but there was clearly an issue with the players temperament.

Ask yourself this, what was such a talented player doing in SL let alone at its least fashionable club? Imho it’s because he couldn’t handle expectations and the pressure that went with it. Exemplified by his alcoholic fuelled exit from the club.

Brough had his demons and he too could occasionally choke in big games but compared to Smith he was Mr Consistent. He was an all round far better player imo but what I feel is less up for debate is who had the heart and who didn’t.

Truth is imho that if anything Broughy was too headstrong and too gutsy too the point where teams that could really challenge steered clear of a player who would almost certainly clash with other star players. Loved to have seen how he’d have gone at a big club but in truth it probably wouldn’t have worked.

For Smith it definitely didn’t.
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