Re: Standards : Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:34 am  

PopTart wrote:

I was quite a fan of Smith but let's not overdo it.
We were 5th in the league 2 years after he left. You can't put that down to Smith.

Smith and Kear ?

[PopTart]

Re: Standards : Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:36 am  

alegend wrote:

Smith and Kear ?

You could put it down to Kear when he was working at the same time as Chester.
But that wasn't what was said.

Re: Standards : Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:00 am  

try scorer wrote:

Think your kidding yourself ketty lad I watched both games and could see no comparison between our teams performances this season and those by cas on Thursday and hull kr Friday don't kid yourself lad

We smashed Hull Kr at home when we went through a decent little run a few months back, smashed Hudd too in that same patch, then get beat by a Hudd team missing a load of players. There are many factors to creating a consistently competitive team, the coach Obviously being right up there. I’ve seen enough in those performances to know we are simply better than how we have been performing. Until we get a Very rich benefactor So we can spend to the full cap, get better training facilities etc then we will always be having to punch above our weight. And even that is not a recipe for success ie Hudd/ Warrington. I’m just intrigued to see how we perform today and for the rest of the season under poaching and see if we have different attacking/ defence structures compared to chester.

Re: Standards : Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:07 am  

PopTart wrote:

You could put it down to Kear when he was working at the same time as Chester.
But that wasn't what was said.

Fair point be to me it means Chester got lucky with the spade work done by others

[PopTart]

Re: Standards : Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:31 am  

alegend wrote:

Fair point be to me it means Chester got lucky with the spade work done by others

I just thinks a team thing. Chester lifted the team after a tough time with Smith. Kear gave some stability for Chester to work with.

It's no different to saying Powell benefited from having Orr with him.
It hasn't been as good without him but it doesn't mean Powell was a bad coach without them.

Re: Standards : Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:56 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

The sad part of all that is despite Fifita not being the player he was if you look at the stats he has still been our most effective forward by some distance. Most metres, most tackle busts, most offloads and only 11 tackles behind our leading tackler which is Westerman. It's a pretty damming indictment of the rest of our pack to be honest.

It’s not his individual stats it’s more what he used to bring. He had a magic that galvanised the team whenever he was on. I may be missing something but I don’t see those special moments, those above and beyond.

It’s as if he’s saying to the coach, I can play with one eyes shut and I’m still better than the rest. I want him back playing with both eyes open, think he did that today.

Re: Standards : Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:00 pm  

alegend wrote:

Fair point be to me it means Chester got lucky with the spade work done by others

Don’t agree. Chesters time came and went. He dad three years of relative highs and three lows.

We don’t need to mash the blokes legacy into the ground to justify sacking him. He was an excellent coach for a while than for whatever reason he lost it. Only extreme example like Alex Ferguson maintain it to the end and CC was never that.