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Re: Ofahiki Ogden : Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:03 am  

I still don't agree that most young people take cocaine. Or have even dabbled.
Some do, and some do a lot.

But it looks like a 58 year old judging the younger people by the standard of the yob you see on West Gate after hours.

It's certainly a problem but and as said, a lucrative business, but these days you can't even say 'most' drink to excess.

Re: Ofahiki Ogden : Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:41 am  

vastman wrote:

:lol:

Off the high horse.

I said when I was 20 and p*ssed, just being honest, I was daft at that age especially after a few drinks.

Of course, I wouldn't know, I'm 58 for heaven's sake and have led a life. I'm just being honest, that's what you're like at that age, especially when drunk and with people. It's also a bit hypocritical, be honest, how many times at age twenty did you drink way too much? Because Alcohol can be just as deadly.

Cocaine is generally safer because you don't ingest or inject it, sure it could be cut with talc but that's not going to kill you. In fact, perversely the purer cocaine is the riskier it gets.

I'm totally anti-drug but I'm also VERY anti-drink when done in excess, I detest the idea of getting hammered! But it's not me I'm on about. Also, we come from a very different age, it's very hard to connect with two generations below you and know how they think and feel.

Finally, I said 'tempted', that's not the same as 'definitely' is it? Any of us who say they wouldn't at least have been 'tempted' at aged 20 is either lying or was never truly young, actually doing well that's a different thing.

Calm down vasty I never accused you of anything , worst I saw growing up was the old woodbines been passed around at school , then my world changed in 79 when I went to knebworth to see Led Zep as a fresh faced 17 year old and the air was thick with dope and people were openly injecting themselves with all manor of concoctions , my friend had a huge cut on his head from an airborne object and what I saw in that first aid tent put me off even contemplating drugs . It was like a scene from the Crimea war, I’d started work at the pit by this time and saw some grim sights but these were all self inflicted and I couldn’t get my head round why people would do such dumb things . So a few beers is my only vice and always has been .

Re: Ofahiki Ogden : Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:51 am  

PopTart wrote:

I still don't agree that most young people take cocaine. Or have even dabbled.
Some do, and some do a lot.

But it looks like a 58 year old judging the younger people by the standard of the yob you see on West Gate after hours.

It's certainly a problem but and as said, a lucrative business, but these days you can't even say 'most' drink to excess.

no no no!

I'm judging myself aged 20, I can't judge others as such, however, I don't think I was that different to most.

Tempted I keep pointing out is not the same as doing, but the number of drugs available today I find it hard to believe that the temptations are not so much greater.

Re: Ofahiki Ogden : Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:52 am  

lampyboy wrote:

It's just another attempt by Vasty to put himself in a position that he thought might make him one of many and popular.
Sometimes it's best not comment on a subject you know nothing about.
Vasty what you don't know you tend to make up.

I'm pretty sure I know better than anyone what I would or might have done aged 20. So unless you've shadowed me my entire life then do shut up. You really have just made yourself look a total fool.

If you're not actually going to join the debate then why bother, your comment has nothing to do with anything I've said, just pathetic virtue signalling.

Oh and do tell us all what your great knowledge is regarding drug use? This is a forum, you don't need to have a Degree to comment on any issue you wish.

Re: Ofahiki Ogden : Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:53 pm  

Vastman what you have said as a 20 year old takes courage so respect .Never went near drugs .My two children have not done drugs,though as a 19 year old my son said he had been offered them after a night in Wakefield.Know people from a decent back ground who became addicts. and now in there 40+ years are struggling with life ,deppretion in and out of work ext .It's a big problem that will not go away