Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 6:16 am  

Pat Bateman wrote:

It’s the most deflated ive felt in years of being a trinity. Strong possibility of going down on recent performances, losing 3 decent players, and they are the ones we know about. No news on incoming players which tbf is unsurprising considering we look relegation fodder. Just pretty rubbish at the moment being w fan.

That sums up how I feel also

V deflated

I get tj moving on, it’s a bit like Ellis, he went on to really great things, hopefully Tom will but that doesn’t help trin
If we’d have improved the team I think he’d have stayed but last few seasons we’ve gotten a little worse each year

All we have now is being better than the worst team to stay up with no sign of that improving

Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 8:47 am  

Kettykat wrote:

Or rejuvenate the team which I think we all can agree on haven’t broken any pots for a while now

You don’t rejuvenate a team by letting two of the better players leave.

Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 9:11 am  

JINJER wrote:

You don’t rejuvenate a team by letting two of the better players leave.

'Letting' them leave, you can't chain them to the floodlights
If they get better 'offers' what can the club do? Out bid the competition? Where would that get us?

Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 9:15 am  

It would if. The club wanted with 2 players remaining at the club.
Let's imagine that Millers on his way the club have 2 options.
Go out a Nd seek another stand off,
Use Walker
Dont even concider option 3

Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 9:17 am  

phe13 wrote:

'Letting' them leave, you can't chain them to the floodlights
If they get better 'offers' what can the club do? Out bid the competition? Where would that get us?

Yes the club have to keep.the better players,as stated previously the club need to make sure the revenue streams are better (that is the job of the Chairman/CEO)
Wakefield is a big city compared to most of these other clubs in super league but we can't even spend the full cap.
Come on even Castleford and Featherstone are spending the full cap and are running their clubs very proffesionaly and doing what is needed to get the funds in that is needed.
Featherstone are miles in front of us at the minute and they have a far better team than us and are only in the championship, there is no comparison in how the clubs are run and the quality of the players in both afore mentioned clubs

Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 10:18 am  

Batchelor seems to have struggled to nail down a first team starting spot for us in a struggling team, so i think that it probably is the right thing for him to move on for his own career progression. Good luck to him, he seems to have a great attitude and hopefully he finds his new club works better for him.

Miller is the most overrated player that we have in my opinion. I cant fault his effort and commitment, but he gets so much ball and creates very little with it. Average kicking game and one dimensional passing is far too predictable. We need far more from our number 6. If he goes, which i think he will, we need to get his replacement right and invest heavily in this position to get the right man.

Johnstone is a massive loss and we cant expect to replace him like for like. Good luck to Tom it has been an absolute pleasure to watch him in the red, white and blue and i will now watch Catalans when they are on TV to watch him play, I never bothered before as i had no interest in them. Murphy is likely to be his replacement and has some fantastic potential and i look forward to seeing him develop. But we should not put the burden of expecting him to win games for us like TJ has done in the past, and we should not be relying on ANY winger to be the matchwinner.

It is definitely going to be a make or break few months for the team but something significant had to change and this looks like being the time. But first we need to survive this season. So if the players on the way out dont step up then they need to step aside and allow others with the heart for the fight that is definitely coming for the rest of this season.

Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 10:21 am  

lampyboy wrote:

It would if. The club wanted with 2 players remaining at the club.
Let's imagine that Millers on his way the club have 2 options.
Go out a Nd seek another stand off,
Use Walker
Dont even concider option 3

Why on Earth would Cas want Miller? I'm sure their fans are delighted with him replacing Trueman or Richardson?! Let's have a good old fashioned swap deal then.....

Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 10:22 am  

captaincaveman wrote:

Batchelor seems to have struggled to nail down a first team starting spot for us in a struggling team, so i think that it probably is the right thing for him to move on for his own career progression. Good luck to him, he seems to have a great attitude and hopefully he finds his new club works better for him.

Miller is the most overrated player that we have in my opinion. I cant fault his effort and commitment, but he gets so much ball and creates very little with it. Average kicking game and one dimensional passing is far too predictable. We need far more from our number 6. If he goes, which i think he will, we need to get his replacement right and invest heavily in this position to get the right man.

Johnstone is a massive loss and we cant expect to replace him like for like. Good luck to Tom it has been an absolute pleasure to watch him in the red, white and blue and i will now watch Catalans when they are on TV to watch him play, I never bothered before as i had no interest in them. Murphy is likely to be his replacement and has some fantastic potential and i look forward to seeing him develop. But we should not put the burden of expecting him to win games for us like TJ has done in the past, and we should not be relying on ANY winger to be the matchwinner.

It is definitely going to be a make or break few months for the team but something significant had to change and this looks like being the time. But first we need to survive this season. So if the players on the way out dont step up then they need to step aside and allow others with the heart for the fight that is definitely coming for the rest of this season.

Cant agree at all Captaincaveman
Miller is class but is playing behind a completely beaten pack every week.
As for TJ being a big loss again I don't agree,someone who sits in the stands over half the time isn't a loss because if you are never on the field you are no good to your club

Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 10:23 am  

Wildmoggy wrote:

Why on Earth would Cas want Miller? I'm sure their fans are delighted with him replacing Trueman or Richardson?! Let's have a good old fashioned swap deal then.....

Trueman has signed for Hull so it's a straight replacement for him,Miller will.go VERY well at Cas because he won't be playing behind a beaten pack like ours every week,you could put who you like in our half's but with how weak our pack is they wouldnt create anythimg

Re: Batch : Fri May 20, 2022 10:40 am  

Trinhomeandaway wrote:

Cant agree at all Captaincaveman
Miller is class but is playing behind a completely beaten pack every week.
As for TJ being a big loss again I don't agree,someone who sits in the stands over half the time isn't a loss because if you are never on the field you are no good to your club

I guess we all see things differently. Most Halfbacks dont get to play behind someone like Fifita, that pulls three or four players to him and creates loads of space. Our pack for me does a good job, teams dont go through the middle of us they go around the edges by creating overlaps.

As for TJ not being a big loss. IF we stay up this season it may very well be due entirely from a 40 minute display from him against Salford, and yes getting injured in the process. But i take your point that he is a luxury that we can not afford.