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Re: Aydin : Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:30 pm  
Disappointed but not gutted.
I'm more annoyed at the lack of loyalty, but money talks.
let's see who the replacements for these departing players are and let's hope there is some sort of announcement soon.
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Re: Aydin : Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:34 pm  
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What’s OTT about it?

He’s one of the better young prop forwards to emerge in SL over the last 2 or 3 years and we should have secured him on a contract rather than letting him slip away.


I agree.

It's all good and well asking for examples of where this player has done X,Y or Z.

There might be no examples. But as I see it, living on the past doesn't make up for a potential* mistake in the present.

* Aydin is now the author of his own destiny. But with hard work - I genuinely think he can progress to play internationally.
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Re: Aydin : Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:38 pm  
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Hull KR dont run an acadamy and with signings like these I can see their logic. We invest the money producing the players and they step in and pick them up when they are ready for first team. By all accounts they also had to offer very little to beat the offer we made to him.


Rovers do run an academy. I’m probably one of the most equivocal Rovers fans, regarding the benefits it has/will offer in terms of return on investment, but it definitely exists. This announcement was met with much (tbf, justified) joy.

https://hullkr.co.uk/hull-kr-awarded-el ... d-of-2027/

Had some decent results as the season has gone on. Not the point, I know, but gives a bit of hope. Hull FC have the league table on their website.

https://www.hullfc.com/team/city-of-hul ... ague-table

Interesting see everybody’s thoughts on Aydin, and Batchelor when he was announced. There’ll be an element of these deals having been agreed when you looked like you might be relegated, I suspect. That knackered our recruitment and retention for a while, until relegation was binned off early in 2020 with the pandemic.
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Hull KR dont run an acadamy and with signings like these I can see their logic. We invest the money producing the players and they step in and pick them up when they are ready for first team. By all accounts they also had to offer very little to beat the offer we made to him.


Rovers do run an academy. I’m probably one of the most equivocal Rovers fans, regarding the benefits it has/will offer in terms of return on investment, but it definitely exists. This announcement was met with much (tbf, justified) joy.

https://hullkr.co.uk/hull-kr-awarded-el ... d-of-2027/

Had some decent results as the season has gone on. Not the point, I know, but gives a bit of hope. Hull FC have the league table on their website.

https://www.hullfc.com/team/city-of-hul ... ague-table

Interesting see everybody’s thoughts on Aydin, and Batchelor when he was announced. There’ll be an element of these deals having been agreed when you looked like you might be relegated, I suspect. That knackered our recruitment and retention for a while, until relegation was binned off early in 2020 with the pandemic.
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Re: Aydin : Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:06 pm  
We will see how they get on, obviously their valuation of themselves and our valuation of them are not the same. It is true, can’t think of that many players that have left us to go onto bigger better things. I have faith in the club to make the right decisions within the budget we have.
It’s going to go one way or another, we will either be stronger or weaker next year, WP has a blank canvas but not a blank cheque book. We are late to the party in regards to now been able to guarantee contracts, but who’s to say that said players have been waiting in the wings. MC has stated before the phone never stops with agents all over the world proposing players. Let’s see what they can do. For every Miller there is a Cust or Croft struggling to get a game.
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Re: Aydin : Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:04 pm  
Had a bit of time away from the forum recently but can’t believe vastman has now become the voice of reason on here!

Yes, I’d have liked to have kept Aydin as he’s come through the system and he’s improving all the time but let’s not kid ourselves that it’s a major loss!

Who was it again who switched off for their try last night?


Not wanting to knock the lad but if he wants to take a better offer elsewhere then so be it….it’s not as if we didn’t offer him a deal…

Would much prefer to give bigger improved contracts to Hall and Murphy who are miles ahead and much more worthy of improved offers than Aydin is.
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Re: Aydin : Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:11 pm  
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Had a bit of time away from the forum recently but can’t believe vastman has now become the voice of reason on here!

Yes, I’d have liked to have kept Aydin as he’s come through the system and he’s improving all the time but let’s not kid ourselves that it’s a major loss!

Who was it again who switched off for their try last night?


Not wanting to knock the lad but if he wants to take a better offer elsewhere then so be it….it’s not as if we didn’t offer him a deal…

Would much prefer to give bigger improved contracts to Hall and Murphy who are miles ahead and much more worthy of improved offers than Aydin is.


Yes and also left a gap the size of a bus for Warrington at home for a forward to steam through untouched I recall. He certainly has a lot to work on.
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Re: Aydin : Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:42 pm  
I would have liked Aydin to stay as he was improving gradually with the more matches he was getting.Whether he turns out to be a top prop, who knows, but Yusuf has made his decision.
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Re: Aydin : Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:08 am  
I’m not disappointed in Yusuf or the club… but I am disappointed with the system that allows a club(with fan sponsorship) to develop a first team quality player through their formative years… then gave them taken with no recompense to that development..

We used to pick up Leeds and Wigan cast offs… but this is different as these players are first grade calibre and are first grade calibre because of the investment their club has put into them
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Re: Aydin : Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:51 am  
upthecats wrote:
Had a bit of time away from the forum recently but can’t believe vastman has now become the voice of reason on here!

Yes, I’d have liked to have kept Aydin as he’s come through the system and he’s improving all the time but let’s not kid ourselves that it’s a major loss!

Who was it again who switched off for their try last night?


Not wanting to knock the lad but if he wants to take a better offer elsewhere then so be it….it’s not as if we didn’t offer him a deal…

Would much prefer to give bigger improved contracts to Hall and Murphy who are miles ahead and much more worthy of improved offers than Aydin is.


No, Corey Hall got caught ball watching at A defender and was too passive off his line meaning he didn’t get out and meet Vete. Aydin came in from B defender and put a decent shot on but the damage came from Hall staying on the try line and not meeting Vete a couple of metres off it

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Yes and also left a gap the size of a bus for Warrington at home for a forward to steam through untouched I recall. He certainly has a lot to work on.


I’ve just rewatched that twice and this didn’t happen, well certainly not in the build up to us conceding a try at least. If you’re alluding to a missed tackle in general play then maybe it did but that would be picky beyond the extreme
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Re: Aydin : Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:01 am  
Looking at the Wigan v saints game last night and their youngsters ripping into each other with gusto ,the lad has a long way to develop into anything like that sort of quality from what I’ve seen of him ,with those players being imo the benchmark in our game at present, but Something for him to aim for I’m sure , and if he feels that he will achieve that at another club that’s purely his and his agents choice, and as a club we thank him for his efforts and move on without him .
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