Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:32 pm  

Belle Vue wrote:

I’m asking you….. wHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?

I m gutted with today’s result.. as many others will be…. Todays performance wasn’t acceptable.. but with the resources we have and the recruitment being poor… how do you blame carter for our predicament?

Carter is the reason we are in the predicament. He has failed to either fund the club sufficiently or source alternative sufficent funding streams so that we didn't end up with poor resources or recruitment

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:46 pm  

Belle Vue wrote:

I’m asking you….. wHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?

I m gutted with today’s result.. as many others will be…. Todays performance wasn’t acceptable.. but with the resources we have and the recruitment being poor… how do you blame carter for our predicament?

Because he's in control of the club.

Because he's overseen the recruitment.

Because he's cut the budget on the playing squad year after year.

Because he let Willie and Cummins leave the club and seemingly handed the job to Applegarth (nowt to do with cuts though)

Because he thought Wille couldn't secure us a top 6 finish with this squad and Applegarth could.

Because he's failed the make Wakefield Trinity an attractive proposition on and off the pitch.

Because he's had 10 years to grow the club and failed.

Because we're in dire straights and he's done nothing but swap our best player for a squad player (but without a full back we'd not win a game.... How's that working out?). Oh sorry my bad he's brought a few Huddersfield reserves on loan for a couple of week....

Should I go on?

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:09 pm  

marc271841 wrote:

Because he's in control of the club.

Because he's overseen the recruitment.

Because he's cut the budget on the playing squad year after year.

Because he let Willie and Cummins leave the club and seemingly handed the job to Applegarth (nowt to do with cuts though)

Because he thought Wille couldn't secure us a top 6 finish with this squad and Applegarth could.

Because he's failed the make Wakefield Trinity an attractive proposition on and off the pitch.

Because he's had 10 years to grow the club and failed.

Because we're in dire straights and he's done nothing but swap our best player for a squad player (but without a full back we'd not win a game.... How's that working out?). Oh sorry my bad he's brought a few Huddersfield reserves on loan for a couple of week....

Should I go on?

It's hard to disagree on any of this.

We had a great opportunity to try and build on those two top 5 finishes, but didn't.

The crowds had increased a little, it is true, a successful, or at least a more competitive side, does bring more fans in. Remember how we would spend the cap if we got crowds up to 6k.

What we should have done here, was market the club back then. Why wait 5 years like we have to get out in the community.

Another thing going back to that time, it was documented that we spent about £450k short of the cap, and finished 5th, twice. I don't think to be at least competitive we need to necessarily spend the full cap, if we can get that investor.

Also, we now have too many ageing players in this squad, where we have let players go past their sell by date

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:50 pm  

Prince Buster wrote:

Fair and Valid point Red, but let's not forget such organisations have competent operators. You could give our CEO and director of rugby double our cap and do you honestly think he would be able to recognise the difference between a good or a bad player, bloke is clueless about rugby and that the real issue.

No!
The real issue isn’t that he’s clueless it’s that he thinks he’s a genius

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:36 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Ok, we were the only Super League team to make a profit last season, but how have we benefited from this proud boast? Come on now even Unilever, Shell. Amazon et al borrow money in order to improve their business. A loan prior to the start of the season could have made a big difference to what we are having to endure now.

So would you have had you been in charge???
Incurring debt for the club?
Probably not...
Come on, you and I live in Barnsley and they had been saddled with debt with no investment in the team which led to relegation....
Would you honestly want that debt???
I doubt it.....

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:49 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

Carter is the reason we are in the predicament. He has failed to either fund the club sufficiently or source alternative sufficent funding streams so that we didn't end up with poor resources or recruitment

Well, thanks for that insight....
I don't seem to remember you coming running from the hills to put your money into the club....

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:10 pm  

It's the responsibility of the owners to make sure enough funds are available to run a professional RL club and complete in SL.
Our present owners have unfortunately been unable to do so.
They have had plenty of time to implement a plan to increase funds each season instead of going back to the supporters cap in hand each season. They have sucked the life out of the club
removed hope and run the club in to the ground.

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:26 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

It's the responsibility of the owners to make sure enough funds are available to run a professional RL club and complete in SL.
Our present owners have unfortunately been unable to do so.
They have had plenty of time to implement a plan to increase funds each season instead of going back to the supporters cap in hand each season. They have sucked the life out of the club
removed hope and run the club in to the ground.

Well, that's great insight,
Plan??
How do presume they actually could do that, with the state of the finances as they are?
I look forward to you suggestions.....
So. please. give me a clue.

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:07 am  

wotsupcas wrote:

For God's sake! Who on earth do you think put together this mickey poor squad and coaching team? Carter and Minnards bear FULL responsibility for this complete and utter poop show

So the 17 professional paid players who capitulated so badly yesterday carry no responsibility, and it was Minards n Carter dropping off tackles and walking taking the ball up ,and clueless in every other facets of the game ..right ,give it a rest , suppose they told lynne to walk around aimlessly all game and put no effort in going forwards or Kershaw to keep coming in off his wing so Charley could look like a world beater .Eastmoor dragons would have put a better performance in than that shower of gutless wonders . But let’s bag the board it’s far easier than calling the players out for that sh-t show .

Re: Carter, Minnards, Applegarth, Ford : Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:17 am  

Belle Vue wrote:

I’m asking you….. wHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?

I m gutted with today’s result.. as many others will be…. Todays performance wasn’t acceptable.. but with the resources we have and the recruitment being poor… how do you blame carter for our predicament?

As a starter, after a decade at the club, you'd think we'd be so much better in the recruitment market wouldn't you......even with our small budget?