Re: Murphy : Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:59 pm  

vastman wrote:

Not true not even close but let’s not let reality cloud the truth.

I think anyone with a brain can see that on this one it wouldn’t have mattered what we offered.

Here is a young man who clearly has unlimited ambition and total self belief. He doesn’t just think Trinity is to small for him he thinks SL is.

You can argue all day about Batch and Aydin but Murphy’s future was completely out of our control. It’s sad but in truth the only club he would have stayed for I suspect were if he’d been a Saints product but even that would be postponing the inevitable.

Oh ok, so how many with star quality such as murphy or TJ (other than Max Jowitt) are still at the club because I’m struggling to think of another?

Re: Murphy : Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:53 pm  

1315trinity wrote:

Oh ok, so how many with star quality such as murphy or TJ (other than Max Jowitt) are still at the club because I’m struggling to think of another?

Max will be on his at the end of the season whether we survive or not

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Re: Murphy : Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:39 pm  

1315trinity wrote:

Oh ok, so how many with star quality such as murphy or TJ (other than Max Jowitt) are still at the club because I’m struggling to think of another?

How many with star quality like TJ did we ever have at the club??

Re: Murphy : Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:46 pm  

1315trinity wrote:

Oh ok, so how many with star quality such as murphy or TJ (other than Max Jowitt) are still at the club because I’m struggling to think of another?

Get a grip man !!!!

Maybe add Jordy Crowther to that.
Then theres Bowes and Eseh coming through, Eseh will be a wanted man no doubt, so not much chance of keeping him.

I understand market forces and ambition, but it's so disappointing to see these players leave after putting so much work and not a small amount of money into them.

We were told that The Academy was the way forward at the start of the 1873 Club to create our own players. Only to find, we can create them, but can not afford to pay them the market rates when matured.

Re: Murphy : Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:19 pm  

lifelongfan wrote:

Get a grip man !!!!

Maybe add Jordy Crowther to that.
Then theres Bowes and Eseh coming through, Eseh will be a wanted man no doubt, so not much chance of keeping him.

I understand market forces and ambition, but it's so disappointing to see these players leave after putting so much work and not a small amount of money into them.

We were told that The Academy was the way forward at the start of the 1873 Club to create our own players. Only to find, we can create them, but can not afford to pay them the market rates when matured.

Think you need to get a grip man.
Don’t put Jordy Crowther in the ‘star bracket’ because he ain’t !
I like jordy but not that much.
Bowes and Eseh - even IF they make it to ‘Star’ status will not stay if we continue as we have for the last twenty odd years!

Re: Murphy : Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:23 pm  

PopTart wrote:

How many with star quality like TJ did we ever have at the club??

Depends how far you want to go back ,
I’ve supported the club 60 plus years and I’ve seen countless players come through our junior set up of one kind of another and we’ve not been able to hold onto them. FACT .
TJ was class but there have been others in that bracket over the years as older supporters will confirm!

Re: Murphy : Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:53 pm  

Agreed 1315. Nigel Wright immediately springs to mind!!

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Re: Murphy : Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:12 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Agreed 1315. Nigel Wright immediately springs to mind!!

Indeed. I blame Carter.

Re: Murphy : Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:14 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Indeed. I blame Carter.

So did Nigel Wright!!!

Re: Murphy : Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:21 am  

charlie wrote:

Crazy to think how the tables have turned, it doesn't feel like 2 minutes since Aussie players were coming here for higher pay.

Now the lower grade players other there probably make more than first teamers here.

Good luck to Lewis can't blame him its too good of an opportunity to miss.

Not probably… absolutely

the amount of money in the game here is crazy… any good players now coming to super league will no longer be about money…and it’s interesting that the quality of overseas players in the French league has improved yet it has declined in the UK… perhaps showing France as a more attractive destination to play footy…

the star signings for SL are now barely reserve grade in the NRL. New cohorts of young players are emerging each year… and pushing out others

The balancing factor is the cost of living here is very high by comparison to the UK… average wages are much higher … players looking to resettle here should do lots of research and take a long term view… coming for a holiday will result in a holiday length visit.

Something needs to change in the sport of RL in the UK as since the 80s the gap has been growing… now it’s growing so fast the gap might not be recoverable for generations… if at all