Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 9:35 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Did I not read that our attacking problems were the fault of Ford and now under our coach it will change. He should be a politician because his skill to deflect responsibility is admirable however he is the coach or that is what it says on his door so the buck stops with him. If he actually cared about the club he would accept the job is just too big and step down regardless of the rubbish spouted by Carter in his support.

Yes because you can change a whole lot in 48/72 hours before a game. I do think we need a more experienced coach in the set up though.

If he is to stay as coach then we need a director of rugby with some vast experience - like John Kear.

DOR - John Kear
HC - Mark Appelgarth
AC - Rhys Lovegrove
Player/AC - Luke Gale

Last 2/3 years we haven’t had that experienced coach and even Chester wasn’t that experienced.I think we now need at least one experienced coach in the set up.

If the above doesn’t happen this season it needs to next season.

Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 10:16 am  

Would Kear give up a head coach position to become DoR? Admittedly it's an echelon up - but for how long?

Furthermore, if Carter & Minnards are both going at the end of the season, making important appointments for someone else to inherit would be irresponsible - unless made with that person's agreement as they wait in the wings.

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Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 10:21 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Yes because you can change a whole lot in 48/72 hours before a game. I do think we need a more experienced coach in the set up though.

If he is to stay as coach then we need a director of rugby with some vast experience - like John Kear.

DOR - John Kear
HC - Mark Appelgarth
AC - Rhys Lovegrove
Player/AC - Luke Gale

Last 2/3 years we haven’t had that experienced coach and even Chester wasn’t that experienced.I think we now need at least one experienced coach in the set up.

If the above doesn’t happen this season it needs to next season.

The director of rugby doesn't coach the team

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Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 10:21 am  

Bent&Bongser wrote:

Would Kear give up a head coach position to become DoR? Admittedly it's an echelon up - but for how long?

Furthermore, if Carter & Minnards are both going at the end of the season, making important appointments for someone else to inherit would be irresponsible - unless made with that person's agreement as they wait in the wings.

No one has said Minnards is leaving. Only Carter.

Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 10:26 am  

Duly retracted, PT.

Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 11:14 am  

PopTart wrote:

No one has said Minnards is leaving. Only Carter.

Now Carter is on his was the Facebook groups are starting to turn their attention to Minards. He’s not leaning though that I’m aware.

Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 11:15 am  

PopTart wrote:

The director of rugby doesn't coach the team

There’s no reason why they couldn’t have input or be a pillar of support. The role would be what the club would put in its job description.

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Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 1:16 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

There’s no reason why they couldn’t have input or be a pillar of support. The role would be what the club would put in its job description.

Then he won't be doing his DoR jobs either.
If your list is intended to improve team there needs to be a DoR and a coach, whether head coach or assistant to current one.
But I agree what you are saying.

Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 2:33 pm  

The bottom line is have we since the start of the season seen any sign of improvement. We all know that we were provided with one of the worst squads but you would expect that there would be some improvement. I regret that at best we have stagnated not helped by the rank stupid decision to swap our centre. I would suggest whoever thought this was the way to go should resign because they clearly lack any rugby intelligence to remain.
If it was not the Coach then he should also now go, several on the forum gave him to the Cas game, we have gone far beyond this without any glimmer of a win. He is which I think most must now agree (except Carter for whatever reason) think he is clearly out of his depth and maybe the academy would be a better use of his limited abilities.
It is clear that if he remains then more supporters will walk away and will they return next season that is the question. I know this will upset some but it is time for Carter to step down, he is going at the end of the season and I believe he does not help to generate any enthusiasm and maybe his early retirement is a positive. I actually doubt either will fall on their swords and we the supporters will just have to accept it with a continuing season of ridicule and uncertainty culminating in the obvious relegation.

Re: Applegarth : Sat May 20, 2023 3:53 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Then he won't be doing his DoR jobs either.
If your list is intended to improve team there needs to be a DoR and a coach, whether head coach or assistant to current one.
But I agree what you are saying.

I was Mash to succeed but it’s clear he needs a good strong supporting set up around him at this point in his career to do that. Currently he doesn’t have that. Hopefully they will be addressed soon enough.