Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:43 pm  

KevW60349 wrote:

Yes, looks like they are after McGuire,sounds like he's leaving HKR,but will it be to Cas?

McGuire has turned down Cas.

Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:06 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I agree to a point.
However, since the start of SL, most clubs are now plating in new or, massively improved stadia.
I've no issue with minimum standards to be part of SL. However, RL is a sport and success should be measured in the field of play.
For anyone as cynical as me, once we start promoting clubs based on "other criteria" it makes the game itself unimportant, which is the opposite of what any sport should be.
We could have the lunacy of the top club in the Championship not getting promoted and a club from 5th spot taking a spot in the top flight because of ground improvements or having a new wealthy backer.
Sorry PT but, it's fundamentally wrong.
I'm all for IMG and or the governing body helping clubs improve their business but, we need to be really careful about what is happening with the game.

Agree entirely. Minimum standards are fine and should be enforced and acts of insolvency should be rightly punished. But when how many clicks somebody's tik tok videos get or whether your advertising hording light up is potentially worth more than what you do on the field then it's no longer about sport and that has no interest to me and many others i've spoken to. If clubs and the RFL think this will be some kind of silver bullet i think they are in for a big shock.

Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:51 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Agree entirely. Minimum standards are fine and should be enforced and acts of insolvency should be rightly punished. But when how many clicks somebody's tik tok videos get or whether your advertising hording light up is potentially worth more than what you do on the field then it's no longer about sport and that has no interest to me and many others i've spoken to. If clubs and the RFL think this will be some kind of silver bullet i think they are in for a big shock.

I agree, I find incredible that teams with a couple of million £’s of debt don’t get deducted numerous IMG point in their gradings

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Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:56 pm  

JINJER wrote:

I agree, I find incredible that teams with a couple of million £’s of debt don’t get deducted numerous IMG point in their gradings

They do if they don't have the assets to back it up.
Our balance sheet is strong so we get finance points for that. The ones with big loans (they all have covid loans) that are paid for by benefactor and don't own stadium will have a negative balance sheet and lose points we gain.

Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:06 am  

JINJER wrote:

I agree, I find incredible that teams with a couple of million £’s of debt don’t get deducted numerous IMG point in their gradings

The most perverse one for me is giving points for having a benefactor plough their own money in & not giving anything to clubs who manage to stay afloat without doing so.

Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:36 am  

The only certainty with the IMG process are for those clubs receiving an A rating. There will be a large number of clubs falling into the B category and yes they have produced the point’s structure but like anything this is subjective. If for example two clubs have exactly the same score one in SL and one in the Championship fighting for the 12th place is there some sort of golden point to decide which one gets the final place.
I actually believe we have only one shot at this because the longer we remain in the Championship those in SL will get stronger both on and off the field until it is closed. If I am honest the whole IMG idea makes this season for all clubs not receiving an A grade irrelevant because it is better to concentrate on the off field points which have greater benefit than a successful team.
We were ahead of our time with this idea unfortunately one season early. I suppose not everyone is as confident has PT hence they clutch at anything a club’s ground, owner etc. if we fail then it is down to us because we know like every other team what we have to do this season. We now have an advantage with our new owner who has genuine financial muscle so I would suggest we stop looking at the perceived failings of others and look forward to the positivity both on and off the field which we have been starved of for several seasons.

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Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:43 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

The only certainty with the IMG process are for those clubs receiving an A rating. There will be a large number of clubs falling into the B category and yes they have produced the point’s structure but like anything this is subjective. If for example two clubs have exactly the same score one in SL and one in the Championship fighting for the 12th place is there some sort of golden point to decide which one gets the final place.
I actually believe we have only one shot at this because the longer we remain in the Championship those in SL will get stronger both on and off the field until it is closed. If I am honest the whole IMG idea makes this season for all clubs not receiving an A grade irrelevant because it is better to concentrate on the off field points which have greater benefit than a successful team.
We were ahead of our time with this idea unfortunately one season early. I suppose not everyone is as confident has PT hence they clutch at anything a club’s ground, owner etc. if we fail then it is down to us because we know like every other team what we have to do this season. We now have an advantage with our new owner who has genuine financial muscle so I would suggest we stop looking at the perceived failings of others and look forward to the positivity both on and off the field which we have been starved of for several seasons.

The only reason I have confidence is because I've looked at the numbers in detail.
It is achievable......and not much is subjective. They are straight up auditable facts. Attendance is one of those that is harder to audit but it only matters at the threshold. For us we are between 3k and 7.5k average.
There's no point cheating on that. We are a long way off the 7.5. There are better stats to go at.

Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:38 pm  

newgroundb4wakey wrote:

His wife doesn't want to uproot from London as the kids are settled and happy at school there. Its DOR Danny Wilson that does recruiting.

His wife may not want to leave London, but he's going to HKR!

Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:51 pm  

JINJER wrote:

I agree, I find incredible that teams with a couple of million £’s of debt don’t get deducted numerous IMG point in their gradings

That would get rid of all the A grade Teams lol

Re: O/T Danny Ward not staying on at Cas : Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:18 pm  

charlie wrote:

Speaks volumes IMO he has gone in, figured out what's going on behind the scenes and thought stuff this.

Cas fans are convinced Fulton Jr wants no part of running the club and wants his Daddys money back.

Perhaps "Daddy's" assets are frozen.