Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:14 pm  

I'm going from personal recollections, so I might be wrong, but this is how I see it.

They were persuaded to leave Salford to play in Eccles as a new stadium would be built and Salford Council wanted to ensure the survival of rugby league in the Salford area. As the stadium was being finished, blue seats started to appear, and it became apparent that Sale Sharks would also be playing there. In reality, therefore, Salford were not even co-tenants, but just lodgers, as someone else played there and someone else was paying the rent.

I get the increased impression that what is wanted at the stadium is a nice shiny home for the only high-level rugger club in the rugby league heartlands, and Salford RLFC is just there to add increased revenue.

I feel for them, because the fans went along with a very inconvenient move because of the promises made, and for the club because they were sold the same but it hasn't been delivered.

It is being reported nationally that councils are falling short of their budgets. I suspect the council now regard the club as a burden they wish they hadn't taken on (and to be fair, as might many local council tax payers).

They should get in touch with Gary Neville and come to a shared agreement with the Salford FC ground. Have a real Salford identity in a ground that will be filled when there is a league game on.

As for us, it shows how we are in a much better position. We own the ground. We get the finance streams. Rather in our position than theirs. We have the foundations. All they have is the roof.

Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:22 pm  

From the Red Devils Forum:
"FWIW, just been sent a what's app message involving a current Councillor stating the council are absolutely 100% committed to the club and are currently buying out Peel's half of the stadium."

The use of the word "committed" is always troubling from a politician. It usually means, "we'd really like to, in an ideal world, but sorry guys"

Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:24 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

I'm going from personal recollections, so I might be wrong, but this is how I see it.

They were persuaded to leave Salford to play in Eccles as a new stadium would be built and Salford Council wanted to ensure the survival of rugby league in the Salford area. As the stadium was being finished, blue seats started to appear, and it became apparent that Sale Sharks would also be playing there. In reality, therefore, Salford were not even co-tenants, but just lodgers, as someone else played there and someone else was paying the rent.

I get the increased impression that what is wanted at the stadium is a nice shiny home for the only high-level rugger club in the rugby league heartlands, and Salford RLFC is just there to add increased revenue.

I feel for them, because the fans went along with a very inconvenient move because of the promises made, and for the club because they were sold the same but it hasn't been delivered.

It is being reported nationally that councils are falling short of their budgets. I suspect the council now regard the club as a burden they wish they hadn't taken on (and to be fair, as might many local council tax payers).

They should get in touch with Gary Neville and come to a shared agreement with the Salford FC ground. Have a real Salford identity in a ground that will be filled when there is a league game on.

As for us, it shows how we are in a much better position. We own the ground. We get the finance streams. Rather in our position than theirs. We have the foundations. All they have is the roof.

They had to sell off The Willows to pay off debts. They were fortunate enough to have a new ground offered.

Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:00 pm  

dboy wrote:

If the council don't underwrite their next tenancy deal (like the one that Salford have failed to pay anyway), their tenancy will end in 21 days.

If the they don't have the ground, they forfeit their SL central funds = they are immediately insolvent.

Dead. Kapput. Deceased. The club is more. It's an ex-club.

Like an ex-parrot then.

PS - Feel for the fans, who as usual are left in the lurch.

Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:12 pm  

Kettykat wrote:

Say what you want about Carter , he cut his cloth accordingly, yes it ended in relegation,but at least we got to fight another day . Some may say a master stroke by clearing the decks ready for our saviour to start more or less afresh

yes he really cleared the decks and left our saviour with over 5 million of debt, absolutely splendid.

Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:18 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

yes he really cleared the decks and left our saviour with over 5 million of debt, absolutely splendid.

and he got an asset worth over £10m on the balance sheet

[PopTart]

Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:35 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

yes he really cleared the decks and left our saviour with over 5 million of debt, absolutely splendid.

How many times do we have to explain this to you Mopsey? I'm not sure why you don't get it.

Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:27 pm  

PopTart wrote:

How many times do we have to explain this to you Mopsey? I'm not sure why you don't get it.

Technically Mopsey is right and the club has a debt higher than it ever has before however it also has assets worth more than it ever has before. Can we just agree that you are both right and crack on haha

Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:46 pm  

altofts wildcat wrote:

Technically Mopsey is right and the club has a debt higher than it ever has before however it also has assets worth more than it ever has before. Can we just agree that you are both right and crack on haha

The Asset outweighs the debt....
.....But only by £5M.....

Re: Salford in the Mire : Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:18 pm  

BarnsleyGull wrote:

The Asset outweighs the debt....
.....But only by £5M.....

Can we stop all this back stabing , When the loan is paid off to the council we will own the ground ,We have got a guy in charge who as said ,he is getting us back into S L .Salford are way in det and unlike us ,are not paying any thing back on the loan the Council gave them .If they do pay it off, they still will not own the ground. This is the best thing that as happens to this club off the field in my 69 year of watching them.My problem is at my age I hope I see us get back into S L and win something ,my other problem is we still got fans pulling the club to bits now. Some fans on here do not no when to shut up .