Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:00 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I've no problem with in goal touch judge.

And on the subject of us being under valued, that's because we are a lower value.
It's great we are in a final at Wembley but we are not of equal standing as the Challenge Cup. ....... you are just going to have to accept it.

Regards being of lower value than the challenge cup. Are we saying the 1895 final is of lower value to the women’s cc final?

Can you imagine the carry on if the women’s CC was last slot and not televised and was labeled as such a lower value competition. Probably be carnage.

I just don’t see why the whole 3 matches can’t be televised on bbc.

Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:01 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I've no problem with in goal touch judge.

And on the subject of us being under valued, that's because we are a lower value.
It's great we are in a final at Wembley but we are not of equal standing as the Challenge Cup. ....... you are just going to have to accept it.

I absolutely accept we are at a lower level but there seems to be a difference this year. Ive watched the games previously , enjoyed them without having to scroll through pages trying to find out how it could be seen , and there has been mention and build up to it . The BBC advert doesn't even mention our game ...

Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:38 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Regards being of lower value than the challenge cup. Are we saying the 1895 final is of lower value to the women’s cc final?

Can you imagine the carry on if the women’s CC was last slot and not televised and was labeled as such a lower value competition. Probably be carnage.

I just don’t see why the whole 3 matches can’t be televised on bbc.

Let's be honest here, they are not televising the women's game because of the interest it creates or the quality of the game. It's certainly not for entertainment value or money.. It's artifical, I get it, as its the way of the world and I don't have anything against it, I just won't watch it.

Tell you what though, watching the women's SOO the other week, they are quality over there.

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Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:46 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Regards being of lower value than the challenge cup. Are we saying the 1895 final is of lower value to the women’s cc final?

Can you imagine the carry on if the women’s CC was last slot and not televised and was labeled as such a lower value competition. Probably be carnage.

I just don’t see why the whole 3 matches can’t be televised on bbc.

The Women's challenge cup is the best in the women's game. It's an elite trophy.
Ours is not.

So whether you rate the women's game or not, it's above us in relative terms as its the best two sides in their competition.

Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:11 pm  

Looks like somebody at the RFL has remembered the 1895 Cup is this weekend https://www.rugby-league.com/article/62 ... -cup-final

Looks like somebody at the RFL has remembered the 1895 Cup is this weekend https://www.rugby-league.com/article/62 ... -cup-final

Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:45 pm  

AB Sundecks 1895 Cup Final (Wakefield Trinity v Sheffield Eagles, 5.45pm): referee Tom Grant; touch judges Mark Craven and Warren Turley; in-goal judges Gareth Jones and Simon Ellis; reserve referee James Vella; match commissioner Mark Hebblethwaite; timekeeper Andrew Hardcastle.
1968 memories right there

Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:56 pm  

PopTart wrote:

The Women's challenge cup is the best in the women's game. It's an elite trophy.
Ours is not.

So whether you rate the women's game or not, it's above us in relative terms as its the best two sides in their competition.

You could say that Trinity and Sheffield are amongst the best sides in their competition. The only difference is the CC name.

The best in the women’s game but it’s in its infancy as a league and sport. There’s only 8 teams and probably only 4 teams that are competitive amongst each other.

When you compare this to the championship and even league one in many areas I’d suspect it’s not on the same level or even close as it stands in regards to attendances, revenue, sponsors and structures. It’s I suspect to piggyback early attendees from the men’s CC for the media exposure but it’s only in name that’s it’s an elite trophy and that’s why it’s probably getting the push.

The only reason I’m comparing is because the lack of coverage for the 1895 though. As a sport I’m happy to see the women’s game grow in its own right and get exposure though i suspect it will not for a very long time in its own right become professional though and/or self sustainable as its own entity. Though admittedly I’m not sure what the plans are for the future of women’s rugby league.

That said and this is going back to a recent topic that I think Vastman posted (apologies if it wasn’t) that the Championship is severely lacking in any media profile and effectively left to fend for itself. This is a further example of that I suppose. It’s just a shame. I think strengthening the championship and league one would ultimately strengthen the sport as a whole. How to drive that investment though is another question but no tv deal for the championship or anything significant for sponsorship I can see isn’t really showing there’s passion to grow the levels below SL or any future plans from the governing body.

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Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:15 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

You could say that Trinity and Sheffield are amongst the best sides in their competition. The only difference is the CC name.

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No you can't.
Not everyone is eligible to play.

Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:41 pm  

PopTart wrote:

No you can't.
Not everyone is eligible to play.

The 1895 is for championship and league one and the two clubs are amongst the best of those eligible within those competition of which all are eligible. So you can say that the 1895 is an elite trophy/competition for the championship and below.

Re: Bring That Trophy Home : Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:08 pm  

PopTart wrote:

People won't like it but to me the form wingers are Olpherts and Jerry.
But on the open spaces Walmsley could be running the length.

can't disagree... whichever winger misses out they have every right to be disappointed.