And in other news...THE PCR TEST. From The horses Mouth.
The majority of COVID-19 testing happening in the U.S. and UK right now uses polymerase chain reaction (PCR) technology.
FALSE POSITIVES ? Of interest to the Club? I should hope so.
What is PCR? “In the early 1990’s, PCR, came into popular use, and Kary Mullis was awarded the Nobel Prize for it in 1993. PCR, simply put, is a thermal cycling method used to make up to billions of copies of a specific DNA sample, making it large enough to study. PCR is an indispensable technique with a broad variety of applications including biomedical research and criminal forensics.”
According to Mullis himself, PCR cannot be totally and should never be used as a tool in “the diagnosis of infectious diseases.” He also added that, “Human beings are full of retrovirus. We don’t know if it is hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands.
According to Jason Hommel, a prolific writer and researcher and also the author of the very important article regarding coronavirus testing entitled “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”: “PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.
The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.
The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.”
Meanwhile, also from interview by Celia Farber, Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics, stated:
“You have to have a whopping amount of any organism to cause symptoms. Huge amounts of it. You don’t start with testing; you start with listening to the lungs. I’m skeptical that a PCR test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine. 30% of your infected cells have been killed before you show symptoms. By the time you show symptoms…the dead cells are generating the symptoms”
And in other news...THE PCR TEST. From The horses Mouth.
The majority of COVID-19 testing happening in the U.S. and UK right now uses polymerase chain reaction (PCR) technology.
FALSE POSITIVES ? Of interest to the Club? I should hope so.
What is PCR? “In the early 1990’s, PCR, came into popular use, and Kary Mullis was awarded the Nobel Prize for it in 1993. PCR, simply put, is a thermal cycling method used to make up to billions of copies of a specific DNA sample, making it large enough to study. PCR is an indispensable technique with a broad variety of applications including biomedical research and criminal forensics.”
According to Mullis himself, PCR cannot be totally and should never be used as a tool in “the diagnosis of infectious diseases.” He also added that, “Human beings are full of retrovirus. We don’t know if it is hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands.
According to Jason Hommel, a prolific writer and researcher and also the author of the very important article regarding coronavirus testing entitled “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”: “PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.
The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.
The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.”
Meanwhile, also from interview by Celia Farber, Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics, stated:
“You have to have a whopping amount of any organism to cause symptoms. Huge amounts of it. You don’t start with testing; you start with listening to the lungs. I’m skeptical that a PCR test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine. 30% of your infected cells have been killed before you show symptoms. By the time you show symptoms…the dead cells are generating the symptoms”
[quote="Miro"]And in other news...THE PCR TEST. From The horses Mouth.
The majority of COVID-19 testing happening in the U.S. and UK right now uses polymerase chain reaction (PCR) technology.
FALSE POSITIVES ? Of interest to the Club? I should hope so.
What is PCR? “In the early 1990’s, PCR, came into popular use, and Kary Mullis was awarded the Nobel Prize for it in 1993. PCR, simply put, is a thermal cycling method used to make up to billions of copies of a specific DNA sample, making it large enough to study. PCR is an indispensable technique with a broad variety of applications including biomedical research and criminal forensics.”
According to Mullis himself, PCR cannot be totally and should never be used as a tool in “the diagnosis of infectious diseases.” He also added that, “Human beings are full of retrovirus. We don’t know if it is hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands.
According to Jason Hommel, a prolific writer and researcher and also the author of the very important article regarding coronavirus testing entitled “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”: “PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.
The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.
The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.”
Meanwhile, also from interview by Celia Farber, Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics, stated:
“You have to have a whopping amount of any organism to cause symptoms. Huge amounts of it. You don’t start with testing; you start with listening to the lungs. I’m skeptical that a PCR test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine. 30% of your infected cells have been killed before you show symptoms. By the time you show symptoms…the dead cells are generating the symptoms”
If you are referencing this as a font of knowledge I suggest you are definitely in the conspiracy theory camp.
Here is some fake news that may or may not be of interest to you where people have been referencing Kary Mullis after he died prior to Covid showing its head in society.
Please see my link above that indicates that this is fake news.
[quote="Miro"]And in other news...THE PCR TEST. From The horses Mouth.
The majority of COVID-19 testing happening in the U.S. and UK right now uses polymerase chain reaction (PCR) technology.
FALSE POSITIVES ? Of interest to the Club? I should hope so.
What is PCR? “In the early 1990’s, PCR, came into popular use, and Kary Mullis was awarded the Nobel Prize for it in 1993. PCR, simply put, is a thermal cycling method used to make up to billions of copies of a specific DNA sample, making it large enough to study. PCR is an indispensable technique with a broad variety of applications including biomedical research and criminal forensics.”
According to Mullis himself, PCR cannot be totally and should never be used as a tool in “the diagnosis of infectious diseases.” He also added that, “Human beings are full of retrovirus. We don’t know if it is hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands.
According to Jason Hommel, a prolific writer and researcher and also the author of the very important article regarding coronavirus testing entitled “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”: “PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.
The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.
The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.”
Meanwhile, also from interview by Celia Farber, Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics, stated:
“You have to have a whopping amount of any organism to cause symptoms. Huge amounts of it. You don’t start with testing; you start with listening to the lungs. I’m skeptical that a PCR test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine. 30% of your infected cells have been killed before you show symptoms. By the time you show symptoms…the dead cells are generating the symptoms”
If you are referencing this as a font of knowledge I suggest you are definitely in the conspiracy theory camp.
Here is some fake news that may or may not be of interest to you where people have been referencing Kary Mullis after he died prior to Covid showing its head in society.
RWB - I started reading the aap article and immediately found it to be disingenuous, for them to selectively make out people would claim Mullis had said anything about "tests for covid" since he died before the Pandemic even started is a bit mis-leading. I think they are deliberately trying to make credible PCR detractors seem stupid.
Isn't it strange the PCR inventor/expert is no longer with us just like the Iraq WMD expert David Kelly was no longer with us for the Chilcot inquiry. How convenient for them.
Anyway, if you go to YT there's an uploaded response from a New Zealand MD (Dr Sam Bailey) that was fact checked by these so called "fact checkers" regarding her recent critique of the PCR test. Search
[youtube]Covid-19: Who Fact-Checks the Fact-Checkers?[/youtube]
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RWB - I started regarding the aap article and immediately found it to be disingenuous, for them to selectively make out people would claim Mullis had said anything about "tests for covid" since he died before the Pandemic even started is a bit mis-leading. I think they are deliberately trying to make credible PCR detractors seem stupid.
Isn't it strange the PCR inventor/expert is no longer with us just like the Iraq WMD expert David Kelly was no longer with us for the Chilcot inquiry. How convenient for them.
Anyway, if you go to YT there's an uploaded response from a New Zealand MD (Dr Sam Bailey) that was fact checked by these so called "fact checkers" regarding her recent critique of the PCR test. Search
[youtube]Covid-19: Who Fact-Checks the Fact-Checkers?[/youtube]
Matthewtrin mate you have your theory or belief I have mine clearly you think it's sinister even referencing the death of Kelly years ago over WMD scandal. If there was ever anything to that do you not think it would have been sorted. Next you will be referencing the conspiracy theory around Dianna. As for the PCR inventor he had a decent innings.
Matthewtrin mate you have your theory or belief I have mine clearly you think it's sinister even referencing the death of Kelly years ago over WMD scandal. If there was ever anything to that do you not think it would have been sorted. Next you will be referencing the conspiracy theory around Dianna. As for the PCR inventor he had a decent innings.
Crack on with the crusade best of luck
It was just a thought, somewhat of a sweeping statement rather than directly accusing anyone of sinister wrongdoing. Then again there was Epstein, so you never know nowadays.
The crusade will continue and rightfully so if I'm concerned with the current state of affairs.
Here's another little win for the dissenters from the Devon live:
"Half of the people who were in hospital in Devon and Cornwall having tested positive for COVID-19 were admitted for other reasons, latest figures show.
The monthly NHS trust situation report, which was released on Thursday night - and covers up until October 1 - showed six patients were in hospital across the two counties.
But only three of the admissions were because of coronavirus, with three of them being diagnosed once they were in the hospital – either because they were infected within the hospital or because they were admitted for a different reason unrelated to COVID-19, but unknowingly also had the virus when they were tested."
My suspicions previously mentioned on here appear to be correct; accepting more people into hospital post lockdown alongside an increasing test capacity, would eventually contribute to more positive PCR tests against a tally of hospital admissions.
REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:
Matthewtrin mate you have your theory or belief I have mine clearly you think it's sinister even referencing the death of Kelly years ago over WMD scandal. If there was ever anything to that do you not think it would have been sorted. Next you will be referencing the conspiracy theory around Dianna. As for the PCR inventor he had a decent innings.
Crack on with the crusade best of luck
It was just a thought, somewhat of a sweeping statement rather than directly accusing anyone of sinister wrongdoing. Then again there was Epstein, so you never know nowadays.
The crusade will continue and rightfully so if I'm concerned with the current state of affairs.
Here's another little win for the dissenters from the Devon live:
"Half of the people who were in hospital in Devon and Cornwall having tested positive for COVID-19 were admitted for other reasons, latest figures show.
The monthly NHS trust situation report, which was released on Thursday night - and covers up until October 1 - showed six patients were in hospital across the two counties.
But only three of the admissions were because of coronavirus, with three of them being diagnosed once they were in the hospital – either because they were infected within the hospital or because they were admitted for a different reason unrelated to COVID-19, but unknowingly also had the virus when they were tested."
My suspicions previously mentioned on here appear to be correct; accepting more people into hospital post lockdown alongside an increasing test capacity, would eventually contribute to more positive PCR tests against a tally of hospital admissions.
I would just like to point out that In my post there is no mention of Kary Mullis referring to covid-19 specificly. Yes, he died prior to the current plandemic. The reference is to “the diagnosis of infectious diseases."
While I have not waded through your many links I do not see why you would point to people refering to Kary Mullis speaking after he died. What has that to do with me. Or, are you simply taring me with the same brush in an effort to discredit me?
So this is Jason Hommel and the very important article it looks like blog to me with 26 comments.
Your point being? At least he has a name while you go under the guise of Red White and Blue.
It intrigues me why you rely so much on websites dedicated to outing “fake news”. Many of these sites have been set up simply to protect the interests of those pushing the official narrative. While they are not completely wrong neither are they completely right. My experience of these sites are that they claim something to be fake in large type, usually just by claiming something is fake with little real evidence. They then pull out an “expert” to comment with no assurance that he / she is fake either. As many people never get past the headline it's job done I suppose.
Another tactic is to simply smear the reporter of the original news without actually addressing the claims he / she has made.
I suggest you do the digging yourself rather than take the lazy rout of simply publishing a list of web links. As you have seen, I paste a link only to point the reader to where I have taken the information as a starter for there own research.
And, in all fairness re Kary Mullis, he is not available for comment so affectively we will never know for sure if he did or didn't say what has been claimed. But I remind you I did not say he made direct reference to Covid-19.
I too will be “cracking on with the crusade.” As no doubt you will crack on with your crusade to enable certain parties to turn this country (and the world) into one big poophole for the likes of you and I. Careful what you wish for Red White and Blue.
I would just like to point out that In my post there is no mention of Kary Mullis referring to covid-19 specificly. Yes, he died prior to the current plandemic. The reference is to “the diagnosis of infectious diseases."
While I have not waded through your many links I do not see why you would point to people refering to Kary Mullis speaking after he died. What has that to do with me. Or, are you simply taring me with the same brush in an effort to discredit me?
So this is Jason Hommel and the very important article it looks like blog to me with 26 comments.
Your point being? At least he has a name while you go under the guise of Red White and Blue.
OK my point being you referenced Kary Mullins about PCR thats fine but then state Mullins viewe was they should never be used as a tool in diagnosing infectious diseases you then reference to Hommel quote “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”:
You then say Hommel is a prolific writer and researcher and the author of of the very important article regarding coronavirus testing entitled “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”: have you looked at this? (its the article with 26 comments yet you refer to it as if its a major piece of research and have you looked at him? he is a finance man with a Psychology degree.
Your point being? At least he has a name while you go under the guise of Red White and Blue.
I have made my point above,I go under REDWHITEANDBLUE as the AUP does not allow names to be used I believe I thought you would know that but I am happy t name myself if required.
It intrigues me why you rely so much on websites dedicated to outing “fake news”. Many of these sites have been set up simply to protect the interests of those pushing the official narrative. While they are not completely wrong neither are they completely right. My experience of these sites are that they claim something to be fake in large type, usually just by claiming something is fake with little real evidence. They then pull out an “expert” to comment with no assurance that he / she is fake either. As many people never get past the headline it's job done I suppose.
But you are happy to believe people like Hommel don't make me laugh!
I suggest you do the digging yourself rather than take the lazy rout of simply publishing a list of web links. As you have seen, I paste a link only to point the reader to where I have taken the information as a starter for there own research.
No I suggest you do some research before posting some of the stuff you are spouting as if its coming from a font of all knowledge, if you are going to post stuff that you say is important as stated by whoever then expect that to get looked at and not taken on face value.
And, in all fairness re Kary Mullis, he is not available for comment so affectively we will never know for sure if he did or didn't say what has been claimed. But I remind you I did not say he made direct reference to Covid-19.
Fair enough but but people are referencing Mullis quotes about Covid and its not correct as he died before Covid came into being. Part of the articles you reference cover this hence my initial points.
I too will be “cracking on with the crusade.” As no doubt you will crack on with your crusade to enable certain parties to turn this country (and the world) into one big poophole for the likes of you and I. Careful what you wish for Red White and Blue.
Which certain parties would that be then? I do not think I have defended anyone in this just debated some of the points that you are making and you do not appear to like being questioned about your views.
[quote="REDWHITEANDBLUE"] Well, there are scientists saying “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”: Or words to that effect.
Jason Hommel
I do not understand why you continue to shoot the messanger.
Jason is a finance man with a psychology degree you state, so what? I mean wow Just look at this lot..
Boris Johnson is a journalist Bill Gates is a software engineer / entrepreneur / businessman Matt Hancock is an economist Nicola Sturgen Politician since age 16 Donald Trump entrepreneur / businessman Dr. Anthony Fauci Well, where do I start lol.
Baroness Lane-Fox of Soho Marks and Spencers / Mydeco / Last Minute.com Baroness Benjamin Waitrose / Crystal Rowe LTD / Caribbean Kitchen The Lord Duncan of Springbank Clerk / Fundraiser The Rt Hon. The baroness Jay of Paddington No experience information to show. / Politician The Rt Hon. Lord Pickles politician / No experience information to show. The Lord Alderdice No experience information to show. / Politician Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen No experience information to show. / Life Peer The Lord Elder / No experience information to show. The Lord Harris of Haringey. Electricity Consumers Council / Bank of England The Right Hon.Baroness Morgan of Cotes. No experience information to show. The Baroness Young of Hornsey. Cultural Broker / head of culture Middlsex Uni. The Rt Hon. Lord Hain Lots of commitees.
Now, you would think they would be shouting their lifes experiences from the rooftops? But hey, Jason is a finance man with a psychology degree so we can dismiss him. Hmmm!
Back to you, I understand why no name, however the point stands....He has a name, a biography online...warts and all.
Never do I want to be taken at face value, hence I publish a link for the reason stated.
Again, I did not refer to Mullis as quoting covid. I am sure there are statements deep in that article that even I do not agree with. But, is not that the same with every article ever written? In effect what you are saying is that disagree with one paragraph and the whole thing is fake?? Come on RW&B you know better than that.
What parties would that be then ? You ask. All the above and the parties who are using the “virus” as a vehicle to “re set the world economy.” That has been explained to you many times on here. Not going over it again.
By the way, I love being questioned about my views, hence why I am on here, why I try to respond to all the opposing posts.
[quote="REDWHITEANDBLUE"] Well, there are scientists saying “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”: Or words to that effect.
Jason Hommel
I do not understand why you continue to shoot the messanger.
Jason is a finance man with a psychology degree you state, so what? I mean wow Just look at this lot..
Boris Johnson is a journalist Bill Gates is a software engineer / entrepreneur / businessman Matt Hancock is an economist Nicola Sturgen Politician since age 16 Donald Trump entrepreneur / businessman Dr. Anthony Fauci Well, where do I start lol.
Baroness Lane-Fox of Soho Marks and Spencers / Mydeco / Last Minute.com Baroness Benjamin Waitrose / Crystal Rowe LTD / Caribbean Kitchen The Lord Duncan of Springbank Clerk / Fundraiser The Rt Hon. The baroness Jay of Paddington No experience information to show. / Politician The Rt Hon. Lord Pickles politician / No experience information to show. The Lord Alderdice No experience information to show. / Politician Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen No experience information to show. / Life Peer The Lord Elder / No experience information to show. The Lord Harris of Haringey. Electricity Consumers Council / Bank of England The Right Hon.Baroness Morgan of Cotes. No experience information to show. The Baroness Young of Hornsey. Cultural Broker / head of culture Middlsex Uni. The Rt Hon. Lord Hain Lots of commitees.
Now, you would think they would be shouting their lifes experiences from the rooftops? But hey, Jason is a finance man with a psychology degree so we can dismiss him. Hmmm!
Back to you, I understand why no name, however the point stands....He has a name, a biography online...warts and all.
Never do I want to be taken at face value, hence I publish a link for the reason stated.
Again, I did not refer to Mullis as quoting covid. I am sure there are statements deep in that article that even I do not agree with. But, is not that the same with every article ever written? In effect what you are saying is that disagree with one paragraph and the whole thing is fake?? Come on RW&B you know better than that.
What parties would that be then ? You ask. All the above and the parties who are using the “virus” as a vehicle to “re set the world economy.” That has been explained to you many times on here. Not going over it again.
By the way, I love being questioned about my views, hence why I am on here, why I try to respond to all the opposing posts.
I do not understand why you continue to shoot the messanger.
According to Jason Hommel, a prolific writer and researcher and also the author of the very important article regarding coronavirus testing entitled “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”:
You have cited him back him up I have just said I dont think he has any credibility oh your sentence is a copy and paste of one of the links I sent you!
Jason is a finance man with a psychology degree you state, so what? I mean wow Just look at this lot..
Boris Johnson is a journalist Bill Gates is a software engineer / entrepreneur / businessman Matt Hancock is an economist Nicola Sturgen Politician since age 16 Donald Trump entrepreneur / businessman Dr. Anthony Fauci Well, where do I start lol.
Baroness Lane-Fox of Soho Marks and Spencers / Mydeco / Last Minute.com Baroness Benjamin Waitrose / Crystal Rowe LTD / Caribbean Kitchen The Lord Duncan of Springbank Clerk / Fundraiser The Rt Hon. The baroness Jay of Paddington No experience information to show. / Politician The Rt Hon. Lord Pickles politician / No experience information to show. The Lord Alderdice No experience information to show. / Politician Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen No experience information to show. / Life Peer The Lord Elder / No experience information to show. The Lord Harris of Haringey. Electricity Consumers Council / Bank of England The Right Hon.Baroness Morgan of Cotes. No experience information to show. The Baroness Young of Hornsey. Cultural Broker / head of culture Middlsex Uni. The Rt Hon. Lord Hain Lots of commitees.
Now, you would think they would be shouting their lifes experiences from the rooftops? But hey, Jason is a finance man with a psychology degree so we can dismiss him. Hmmm!
What is your point? Do you want me to look at this lot and see what comes up? I already know the answer.
Never do I want to be taken at face value, hence I publish a link for the reason stated. Then back things up with facts
By the way, I love being questioned about my views, hence why I am on here, why I try to respond to all the opposing posts.
You do not respond to opposing posts you dismiss everything anyone comes back at you with, your debate has foundations of quicksand.
Over and out
I would rather discuss this over a pint at some point if ever you fancy but not internet ping pong.
[quote="Miro"] Jason Hommel
I do not understand why you continue to shoot the messanger.
According to Jason Hommel, a prolific writer and researcher and also the author of the very important article regarding coronavirus testing entitled “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”:
You have cited him back him up I have just said I dont think he has any credibility oh your sentence is a copy and paste of one of the links I sent you!
Jason is a finance man with a psychology degree you state, so what? I mean wow Just look at this lot..
Boris Johnson is a journalist Bill Gates is a software engineer / entrepreneur / businessman Matt Hancock is an economist Nicola Sturgen Politician since age 16 Donald Trump entrepreneur / businessman Dr. Anthony Fauci Well, where do I start lol.
Baroness Lane-Fox of Soho Marks and Spencers / Mydeco / Last Minute.com Baroness Benjamin Waitrose / Crystal Rowe LTD / Caribbean Kitchen The Lord Duncan of Springbank Clerk / Fundraiser The Rt Hon. The baroness Jay of Paddington No experience information to show. / Politician The Rt Hon. Lord Pickles politician / No experience information to show. The Lord Alderdice No experience information to show. / Politician Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen No experience information to show. / Life Peer The Lord Elder / No experience information to show. The Lord Harris of Haringey. Electricity Consumers Council / Bank of England The Right Hon.Baroness Morgan of Cotes. No experience information to show. The Baroness Young of Hornsey. Cultural Broker / head of culture Middlsex Uni. The Rt Hon. Lord Hain Lots of commitees.
Now, you would think they would be shouting their lifes experiences from the rooftops? But hey, Jason is a finance man with a psychology degree so we can dismiss him. Hmmm!
What is your point? Do you want me to look at this lot and see what comes up? I already know the answer.
Never do I want to be taken at face value, hence I publish a link for the reason stated. Then back things up with facts
By the way, I love being questioned about my views, hence why I am on here, why I try to respond to all the opposing posts.
You do not respond to opposing posts you dismiss everything anyone comes back at you with, your debate has foundations of quicksand.
Over and out
I would rather discuss this over a pint at some point if ever you fancy but not internet ping pong.