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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:08 pm  
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Council chiefs who met both clubs this week, suggested an independent assessment on both sites to establish which one was deliverable in the time-scale, and the most financially viable.

http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... 6423611.jp

Deliverable in the time-scale - Glasshoughton

Most financially viable - with 1 parcel of land each against which to secure loans - Newmarket. With both parcels of land against which to secure loans - Glasshoughton (possibly / probably).

The clock's ticking down on the existence of a professional rugby league club within the City of Wakefield.


So it looks like Glasshoughton it is then.

In principle i dont have any issue with a ground share.

However im not convinced there will be any long term benefits to Wakefield Trinity if the share is at Glasshoughton and the same applies to Cas if the share was at Newmarket.
Which ever way the feasability study goes(i think Glasshoughton),its curtains for one of the clubs ,alternatively, within ten years it will be a merged club,which ironically i think will carry the name Wakefield.

Ultimately i think any ground share at either location will eventually result in the name of Castleford disappearing from top flight rugby league.

If one or both clubs refuse to share,then i presume the "promised land" option from the council will evaporate,leading to new stadia and both clubs ultimately out of top flight rugby.

Not much of a choice really,but i cant fathom why both developments are so reliant on a relatively small hand out from the council,when you look at the overall cost of a build and this handout is now seeing them backed into a corner.
RebelRebel wrote:
Council chiefs who met both clubs this week, suggested an independent assessment on both sites to establish which one was deliverable in the time-scale, and the most financially viable.

http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... 6423611.jp

Deliverable in the time-scale - Glasshoughton

Most financially viable - with 1 parcel of land each against which to secure loans - Newmarket. With both parcels of land against which to secure loans - Glasshoughton (possibly / probably).

The clock's ticking down on the existence of a professional rugby league club within the City of Wakefield.


So it looks like Glasshoughton it is then.

In principle i dont have any issue with a ground share.

However im not convinced there will be any long term benefits to Wakefield Trinity if the share is at Glasshoughton and the same applies to Cas if the share was at Newmarket.
Which ever way the feasability study goes(i think Glasshoughton),its curtains for one of the clubs ,alternatively, within ten years it will be a merged club,which ironically i think will carry the name Wakefield.

Ultimately i think any ground share at either location will eventually result in the name of Castleford disappearing from top flight rugby league.

If one or both clubs refuse to share,then i presume the "promised land" option from the council will evaporate,leading to new stadia and both clubs ultimately out of top flight rugby.

Not much of a choice really,but i cant fathom why both developments are so reliant on a relatively small hand out from the council,when you look at the overall cost of a build and this handout is now seeing them backed into a corner.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:08 pm  
Has anyone not considered Mr box's real agenda here? Imo I think his real agenda is not to give anyone access to the 4 Million of loans. We are about to start the biggest public sector cuts since the second world war. Many people, a lot in front line service will lose there jobs. Under such circumstances it would be political suicide for the Labour party at a local level, to been seen funding these leisure facilities while the rest of the public are making major sacrifices to help balance the books. It might mean a lot to us die hard rugby fans but to the wider voting population it will draw little sympathy for either of our causes.

One minute Box talks about how spending priorities and budgets have to be slashed, next he effectively says the funding is still available as long as we agree. Of course that's very unlikely to happen so he will probably get to pull all the funding and not look like the bad guy. A win win for him, typical sly maneuvering that can only be expected from a politician.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:13 pm  
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typical sly maneuvering that can only be expected from a politician.


that guy has a better swerve than Andy Wilson.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:14 pm  
Who cares... No merger or ground share unless it is at Newmarket and Cas come to us...
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:16 pm  
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Has anyone not considered Mr box's real agenda here? Imo I think his real agenda is not to give anyone access to the 4 Million of loans. We are about to start the biggest public sector cuts since the second world war. Many people, a lot in front line service will lose there jobs. Under such circumstances it would be political suicide for the Labour party at a local level, to been seen funding these leisure facilities while the rest of the public are making major sacrifices to help balance the books. It might mean a lot to us die hard rugby fans but to the wider voting population it will draw little sympathy for either of our causes.

One minute Box talks about how spending priorities and budgets have to be slashed, next he effectively says the funding is still available as long as we agree. Of course that's very unlikely to happen so he will probably get to pull all the funding and not look like the bad guy. A win win for him, typical sly maneuvering that can only be expected from a politician.



What about both the sites which will create so many much needed jobs to the area. i hate mr box !!!
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:16 pm  
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What about both the sites which will create so many much needed jobs to the area. i hate mr box !!!


Empty warehouses =/= jobs
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:17 pm  
working from within the construction industry, you would be surprised what you get for your money at the moment.

if cas were sorted, then it would be been built now, but isnt

if wakey was sorted then it would be been built now, but isnt

imo both have left it too late and this latest "we have everything sorted" by both clubs is a bit tiresome.

truth of the matter is, and probably one of the only things both sets of fans can agree on, is that whatever gets built will be death of the other.

this saga, the fact that i will not travel to glasshoughton to watch a "wakefield" home game (and i understand why cas fans won't travel to newmarket) will mean that me and my family will be lost to the game.

if i cannot watch wakefield in wakefield, then i will not watch RL at all.

sad day if this happens as i am currently a big follower of the game, but this will be the nail in the coffin.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:20 pm  
Incidently, if the Newmarket Stadium doesn't get built then WMDC are a guarantor for a loan the WDCT took out for the fee of the stadium designs. The value of the loan is £150k. More wasted money?
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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"

"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League"

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:20 pm  
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The Pro's and Con's are irrelevant. One stadium is fundable as it stands and one isn't. If both had the necessary funding then this proposal wouldn't have even thought up.

I think this is what Box has planned. Chaos, with rival supporters having a willy waving contest with regards to who has the better site. It detracts from the shameful way WMDC has handled itself recently. How on earth can they say one thing less than 12 months ago then, after a lot of money has been spent by both parties, change the goalposts completely.

Speaking in - "My dad's bigger than your dad" mode I think A lot of money has been spent by one party - Cas, and not much at all spent by the other -WTWC
In fact the money for your Design work is from a loan which is guaranteed by those bad people at WMDC
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"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League"

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:23 pm  
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Incidently, if the Newmarket Stadium doesn't get built then WMDC are a guarantor for a loan the WDCT took out for the fee of the stadium designs. The value of the loan is £150k. More wasted money?

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