Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:01 am  

Jowitt was starved of 1st team footy once Grix was allowed back. Nothing can replace 1st team action. We will never know how his game would have progressed with a 2nd consecutive season as 1st choice fullback.

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:08 am  

I agree. Max has been totally underused since Scott Grix. He would have made fullback his own. After all he won the Rookie of the Year a few years ago. He doesnt appear to have the confidence of the coaching staff.

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:21 am  

Willzay wrote:

Jowitt won the Albert Goldthorpe Medal - no disrespect to the following but can TJ, Batch and Crowther day the same?

Excellent achievement to be noticed, especially by the entire RL community but I'm sorry this one achievement should not and does not solidify his place at fullback. Two head coaches, numerous assistants and he still hasn't been given the number one shirt. It's not one person who holds this opinion on Max and these are opinions of people who watch him daily in training and analyse hours of match footage.

Max should hold on to that achievement and be proud of it, similar to how TJ can say he's represented his country and scored a hat-trick on debut and Batch toured PNG with the performance squad.

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:42 am  

3 head coaches - two of which he was under 19 so he was hardly going to play week in week out then. I would say his treatment has been quite shabby but he’s only 22. So plenty of time for him yet.

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:45 am  

But to say he isn’t up to SL speed is just plain wrong.

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:52 am  

TheDreadnought wrote:

Excellent achievement to be noticed, especially by the entire RL community but I'm sorry this one achievement should not and does not solidify his place at fullback. Two head coaches, numerous assistants and he still hasn't been given the number one shirt. It's not one person who holds this opinion on Max and these are opinions of people who watch him daily in training and analyse hours of match footage.

Max should hold on to that achievement and be proud of it, similar to how TJ can say he's represented his country and scored a hat-trick on debut and Batch toured PNG with the performance squad.

And yet despite that opinion on Max, you still think that Hampshire is the real deal given that several coaches at other teams have not regarded him as such and not picked him regularly in any one position.

This is not me having a go at Hampshire, this is me pointing out to you a little bit of hypocrisy, although I am sure you will tell me once again that I am wrong and you are right.

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:15 am  

TheDreadnought wrote:

Excellent achievement to be noticed, especially by the entire RL community but I'm sorry this one achievement should not and does not solidify his place at fullback. Two head coaches, numerous assistants and he still hasn't been given the number one shirt. It's not one person who holds this opinion on Max and these are opinions of people who watch him daily in training and analyse hours of match footage.

Max should hold on to that achievement and be proud of it, similar to how TJ can say he's represented his country and scored a hat-trick on debut and Batch toured PNG with the performance squad.

You've got a lot of convincing to do Dreadnought I think exactly like you. But some on here have those rose coloured specs on when they think of Max, He has got good qualities & some bad qualities as well. I said 5 or 6 seasons ago that he's not a fullback & should play stand-off & the reason I said that because of his defence & I got absolutely slaughtered on here for saying that. I even gave examples but the roses wouldn't have it. If you watch the Warrington game twice he let the player-run past him & then tackled him over the line ( He did that a lot when he played there regularly) & then the other one he could have tackled Austin but instead did a spectacular dive & just missed him again did it a lot when he played regularly at fullback. Playing at stand off I thought would probably toughen him up a bit & help with his tackling & to some extent it has, But at the moment he does lack the foresight that other stand-offs have. Now wether he can learn the craft is another thing but to do that he needs a good scrun half that can bring him on. But he's not going to learn anything from Chester & his team of coaches. I'll probably get hammered for saying all this but like Vasty/Fcrap says It's only my opinion.

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Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:25 am  

I like Max a lot but as said he has flaws.
He's one of the best we've had under a high ball and can pass but his organisation of defense and his personal defense are not great.
Hampshire is not the FB answer either but has speed on his side.
That's why I like Walker as he's good all round.

Max I'd play at half back but he has a lot of development to go to be a starting 7 in a super league team.

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:39 am  

Fordy wrote:

And yet despite that opinion on Max, you still think that Hampshire is the real deal given that several coaches at other teams have not regarded him as such and not picked him regularly in any one position.

This is not me having a go at Hampshire, this is me pointing out to you a little bit of hypocrisy, although I am sure you will tell me once again that I am wrong and you are right.

Woah woah woah cry baby, where did I state Hampshire is the real deal? Simply better than Max.

Re: Chester must go now : Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:41 am  

PopTart wrote:

I like Max a lot but as said he has flaws.
He's one of the best we've had under a high ball and can pass but his organisation of defense and his personal defense are not great.
Hampshire is not the FB answer either but has speed on his side.
That's why I like Walker as he's good all round.

Max I'd play at half back but he has a lot of development to go to be a starting 7 in a super league team.

Get him out to Dewsbury for a season with Paul Sykes (although I'd imagine he will have retired by the time the season is underway) and let him have a full year playing halfback under someone who can coach/guide him through. We do not have enough time left in this season to develop him and next year is make or break.