Sacred Cow wrote:
Sue them for what? They council can’t enforce a stadium build that has a trigger point that hasn’t been reached. They can try to cajole them into pushing on but until that trigger is reached are pretty much toothless. Now there is an argument that the white box should be included and that is an argument over rules and regulations but unless the trust has some pretty damning evidence of collusion between the council and Yorkcourt and hard facts (thats not hearsay from someone who knows a compan rep but bonafide proof) that they have been actively discouraging companies to sign up then chances of any signifcant success are slim. And yes YC don’t own all of the land but remember they (or whoever was developing the site) can apply to have the S106 recinded after 5 years, which happens to be not far off. Community facilities built on Belle Vue might be classed as a viable alternative. Also BV has already had a not long since lapsed PP for housing in it, an application on there would be pretty much a formality. Sorry but i see no outcome there thats gets us a nice shiny stadium up there.
And this is before the wider public see us trying to sue a cash-strapped council, one who have already one the battle of PR on this one. I feel the only option is to get round the table and thrash out a deal. It might not be the perfect one we all wanted but MC and the trust may have to swallow their pride to get a deal that works at least part way to what we need. The opposition are holding all the best cards here and sometimes you need to know when to fold your hand rather than going all in hoping to hit a last card winner.
For a start I don't care how cash strapped they claim to be - so what.
You clearly see yourself as a bit of an expert but you're no more an expert than me. The three experts are TRB, IA and SC because they have all the info.
I can't let to much go but actually the council could have forced Yorkcourts hand. Basically revolves around the non inclusion of the second phase of Newcold - that my friend was if you here what I here an illegal act and a gross dereliction of duty to both the rate payer and in defiance of the original agreement. Neither the Council or a certain individual had the right to do that - end of.
People are getting it wrong here. The club are not the key player it's the trust that counts. The same trust to which the agreement was made. The council has no authority whatsoever to levy any kind of charge because wherever the stadium ends up it belongs to the trust - that was and still is the deal.
The trust and only the trust have the right to levy a rent. The council are only supposedly offering BV as an alternative venue to speed it up. It is there job and there's alone to recoup the money from Yorkcourt.
The crux is that one way or another the council obliged itself to providing a community sports facility funded from the proceeds of NM and that's not changed one bit. This was why the government released green belt land for development, was the stipulation they all agreed to that was the payback! They have failed in every respect and they have acted illegally ,- why would we be taking legal action if they had't would there. No point suing YC they would just liquidate themselves though m sure we'll try it WMDC are Imo the real target.
That is how it's been explained to me you someone who (no offence) is just a name on a forum. I accept I'm no more credible myself but hey you go with what you know.
