[PopTart]

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:13 pm  

Mark Voakes wrote:

Bring it on I say. He has my telephone number and email address, he can also get me on facebook messenger like his ex and current employees have done. I really couldn't care less, if he wants to sue me for my credit card bill, he can have it!!! Maybe he should concentrate on more important things - like getting rid of the rookie coach he appointed and getting this deal done quick so someone can sort the mess out he created.

Lets deal in some actual facts shall we.

1) I posted what I heard on 1 platform, not 'several' - Facebook. It gained traction on here by other posters bringing it up, and even 1 particular Mod (Poptart) repeatedly bringing it up.

2) I posted this on the 21st May 2023, he did one interview on the 24th May with 13rugby - why did he not address these so called malicious rumours then? Why wait until 3 weeks after they appeared on FB to now address them? Maybe the landscape changed and the prospective new owner told him to pull the other one when he tried to pull that trick on them.

For any further comments, contact my solicitor.

Or maybe they were made up rumours just to cause trouble. Who knows.

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:27 pm  

steadygetyerboots-on wrote:

I’m not trying to be argumentative, but if all that you say above is accurate, why would anyone buy the club at this particular point in time?

If you’re looking to buy a RL club we have more potential than most other clubs. IMG may make it easier to invest, you know what needs doing to achieve grade A status.

Up the Trin

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:31 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Or maybe they were made up rumours just to cause trouble. Who knows.

Maybe they were.

However, if it helps get him and his mate out, I would say win win, and we can hopefully get someone on board who has the nous, business expertise to sort the mess out he caused.

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:34 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Or maybe they were made up rumours just to cause trouble. Who knows.

give over pop tart, can I ask you what is your actual agenda with all this. You don't believe anyone, you contradict everyone, you defend the club and Carter when it's plain to see the club is basically trashed. The recruitment and retention is diabolical leading to the clubs name being put through the ringer as the worst in sl history. A ceo and chairman who supposedly have the best interests of the club at heart but won't replace a struggling coach, running to the fans with the begging bowl out when it suits. No team, no money in debt, fans divided, what a legacy he leaves, what a shambles but you'll still want a week in mourning when he goes. Anyone with half a brain cell can see what's going on

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:42 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

Good grief PT, The club is rank from top to bottom, we've no money, we've tonnes of debt, we've our worst squad in.sl history , we've not won a game, the club is an embarrassment on the verge of relegation and some of you lot are still hanging on the messiahs every word and throwing yourselves at his feet. The 3 omigos don't care but every one is wrong, everyone is a liar and everyone makes stuff up. What a legacy he's created and is leaving us with, the quicker they go tje better

The previous owners hardly left us in a good place either, just hope the new owners bring some stability to be able to compete.
Think that's all us Wakey fans ask.

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:58 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Or maybe they were made up rumours just to cause trouble. Who knows.

Well like mark says the messiah as got his number, crack on messiah

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:05 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

Well like mark says the messiah as got his number, crack on messiah

Both have mine too

[PopTart]

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:09 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

give over pop tart, can I ask you what is your actual agenda with all this. You don't believe anyone, you contradict everyone, you defend the club and Carter when it's plain to see the club is basically trashed. The recruitment and retention is diabolical leading to the clubs name being put through the ringer as the worst in sl history. A ceo and chairman who supposedly have the best interests of the club at heart but won't replace a struggling coach, running to the fans with the begging bowl out when it suits. No team, no money in debt, fans divided, what a legacy he leaves, what a shambles but you'll still want a week in mourning when he goes. Anyone with half a brain cell can see what's going on

I want to say I don't contradict everyone.....but that kinda defeats the object (joke)

I agree with you on some things.
I agree recruitment wasn't good. We should have got a 6. Overseas recruitment quite bad with Proctor and Atoni.

I've said many times I don't know Carter. I'm not going to cry when he leaves, but equally I can see that he's done a lot of good at the club.....as I'm not blinded by hate.

And there are lots of people on here I agree with but not on everything. I think that's the point of the forum.

What I don't agree with, is people making up quite damaging 'facts' and posting them, for no benefit but to stir up trouble.
If you call me out on something and you are right, I always apologise and retract it. As Mr Voakes can confirm.
Can you say the same?

So my only agenda is to fact check 'facts'. I'm not going to blindly believe you or anyone else if you say something controversial. I'm going to ask questions. If you can answer them I'll probably believe you.
But on the things I (and others) have challenged you on, about the takeover, and how Carter has done things to make it worse, I have no answers that stand up......so I don't believe you.

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:22 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I want to say I don't contradict everyone.....but that kinda defeats the object (joke)

I agree with you on some things.
I agree recruitment wasn't good. We should have got a 6. Overseas recruitment quite bad with Proctor and Atoni.

I've said many times I don't know Carter. I'm not going to cry when he leaves, but equally I can see that he's done a lot of good at the club.....as I'm not blinded by hate.

And there are lots of people on here I agree with but not on everything. I think that's the point of the forum.

What I don't agree with, is people making up quite damaging 'facts' and posting them, for no benefit but to stir up trouble.
If you call me out on something and you are right, I always apologise and retract it. As Mr Voakes can confirm.
Can you say the same?

So my only agenda is to fact check 'facts'. I'm not going to blindly believe you or anyone else if you say something controversial. I'm going to ask questions. If you can answer them I'll probably believe you.
But on the things I (and others) have challenged you on, about the takeover, and how Carter has done things to make it worse, I have no answers that stand up......so I don't believe you.

I have nothing to apologise for, I can hold my head high knowing I've done my bit to help save our club, can you say the same, no I guess not, as for Carter doing good at the club maybe he as maybe he hasn't but that's in the past and this is now and it's a complete mess, we could be down in a few week

Re: Matthew Ellis Takeover : Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:26 pm  

Are you the new Messiah then Mopsey ??