Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:46 am  

Miro wrote:

Thanks for that. The BBC hmm, the cracks in the charade are truly beginning to show. But the people are in total denial so what can you do ?

Spread the word in a polite manner, you've got to be tactical about exposing this fraud. Acknowledge the virus but offer ideas showing the open deceit from people/groups with a vested interest in spreading hysteria. If someone is open to hearing about the facts on the severity of the virus get them to watch Ivor Cummuns on YT, this guy knows his stuff. Don't get in confrontation with anyone especially in person as people will get very defensive if they think their being challenged. It's like an election, political leaders target swing voters. These are groups of people with an open mind to listen to ideas that can be reasoned with. These are the people we need to target those that are open to listening to alternative views on the pandemic. Facts and truth always come out in the end, this is what we need to harness people towards us. If only we could bring down the BBC & Sly News. I think this is where we are losing this battle at the moment, through messaging and narrative. I've heard Nigel Farage is starting up a News channel on TV next year, hopefully this can be used as the catalyst to bring about our shared views and facts into the mass public debate. Once we get over the tipping point, their agenda will collapse like a pack of dominoes and the herd will all follow us.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:51 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I love the derision of the mainstream media, usually when they dont say something that you agree with.
Compare them to the on line "hot beds" of lies and propaganda, which is usually even less well balanced.

I am aware that the MSM will toe the party line for certain issues. However, on balance, they remain significantly more reliable than many agenda driven media outlets and they are, in theory, accountable.

Like you, my lucky rabbits foot has served me well since birth.
Mind you, I'm up to date with all my jabs and have always trusted the medics vs on line output, when I've needed, which, thankfully, has been very infrequently.
I'll certainly go with the NHS and their staff over ALL of the links on this thread, even though, as human beings, they do occasionally make mistakes , as we all do.

Problem is the medical community don't unanimously agree. I trust my own "critical thinking" of medical information and government sources over all types of media - both mainstream and online alternative.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:55 am  

MatthewTrin wrote:

Spread the word in a polite manner, you've got to be tactical about exposing this fraud. Acknowledge the virus but offer ideas showing the open deceit from people/groups with a vested interest in spreading hysteria. If someone is open to hearing about the facts on the severity of the virus get them to watch Ivor Cummuns on YT, this guy knows his stuff. Don't get in confrontation with anyone especially in person as people will get very defensive if they think their being challenged. It's like an election, political leaders target swing voters. These are groups of people with an open mind to listen to ideas that can be reasoned with. These are the people we need to target those that are open to listening to alternative views on the pandemic. Facts and truth always come out in the end, this is what we need to harness people towards us. If only we could bring down the BBC & Sly News. I think this is where we are losing this battle at the moment, through messaging and narrative. I've heard Nigel Farage is starting up a News channel on TV next year, hopefully this can be used as the catalyst to bring about our shared views and facts into the mass public debate. Once we get over the tipping point, their agenda will collapse like a pack of dominoes and the herd will all follow us.

Is this taken from the "conspiracy manual" ?
Please tell us (me and anyone else who doesn't go with your view) just who has the vested interest in just about every economy on the planet "tanking" $billions.
As I've mentioned before, I do like a good conspiracy theory and some of you have spent a great deal of time and effort but, who are the "goodies" and who are the "baddies" here ?

Bill Gates has been painted as a bad guy but, despite his significant wealth, i dont see that.
So, who else should we try and avoid. ?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:57 am  

MatthewTrin wrote:

Problem is the medical community don't unanimously agree. I trust my own "critical thinking" of medical information and government sources over all types of media - both mainstream and online alternative.

Really ?
Do you avoid the doctors or hospital and refuse the drugs etc or is it just this particular virus ?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:07 am  

MatthewTrin wrote:

Spread the word in a polite manner, you've got to be tactical about exposing this fraud. Acknowledge the virus but offer ideas showing the open deceit from people/groups with a vested interest in spreading hysteria. If someone is open to hearing about the facts on the severity of the virus get them to watch Ivor Cummuns on YT, this guy knows his stuff. Don't get in confrontation with anyone especially in person as people will get very defensive if they think their being challenged. It's like an election, political leaders target swing voters. These are groups of people with an open mind to listen to ideas that can be reasoned with. These are the people we need to target those that are open to listening to alternative views on the pandemic. Facts and truth always come out in the end, this is what we need to harness people towards us. If only we could bring down the BBC & Sly News. I think this is where we are losing this battle at the moment, through messaging and narrative. I've heard Nigel Farage is starting up a News channel on TV next year, hopefully this can be used as the catalyst to bring about our shared views and facts into the mass public debate. Once we get over the tipping point, their agenda will collapse like a pack of dominoes and the herd will all follow us.

Actually, I meant certain people on here are in "total denial" but your right about being polite. It's not too hard actually. A 75 plus couple came in today, while they were waiting for me to open up they stood, masks in hand. It was obvious they didn't want to put the masks on so I said "no need to put those on on my account" and immediately they looked relieved and pocketed them.
We got talking and both commented upon how ridiculace the whole situation was and gave a few anecdotes that left them shaking their heads. Only when I offered the information that this, in my opinion, is a charade that has nothing to do with our safety did they knda go quiet. Well, the lady did but he nodded in agreement.
Past that I don't push it, I let it go. But hopefully a seed has been sown and if they think my way then maybe it gives them confidence to look at things differently, at the very least.
As for me saying "no need to put those on on my account" I think the take up is around 95%

People know somethings not right but they can't quite take the leap past what they are told on the MSM.

By the way, (see previous post) my 75 year old weekly visitor did turn up again yesterday. Fit as a lop.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:30 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Is this taken from the "conspiracy manual" ?
Please tell us (me and anyone else who doesn't go with your view) just who has the vested interest in just about every economy on the planet "tanking" $billions.
As I've mentioned before, I do like a good conspiracy theory and some of you have spent a great deal of time and effort but, who are the "goodies" and who are the "baddies" here ?

Bill Gates has been painted as a bad guy but, despite his significant wealth, i dont see that.
So, who else should we try and avoid. ?

Ah...the old fall back "conspiracy" Give it a rest wrencat.

You ask:
" just who has the vested interest in just about every economy on the planet "tanking" $billions."

Has that not been explained to you...remember the great re-set? Agenda 30?

Let me give you an analogy.
The mafia move into New York City. They take a look around and see a street full of thriving businesses (Before the lockdown of course, NY is now on it's knees thanks to your lot.) But I digress.
They, the mafia, want a piece of the action or even all of it. So they do everything in their power to ruin those little "mom and pop" enterprises and then.......they move in. The street is now there's. And they even get help from a corrupt police force and an even more corrupt Mayor. Conspiracy? not on your Nellie.

Now let us take the Nazis in Germany during the 1930s Turfed out all the Jewish families from their business, tailors, jewelers, restaurants etc. and took them over for themselves. A book I read ages ago related how a Brownshirt approached a German couple and pointing to an empty restaurant asked them if they wanted it? Of course they did but they, having no experience, ran it into the ground.

Obviously, this present situation is on the grand scale and far surpasses the small fry mafia and that idiot Adolph.

Do you think these people are interested in mom and pop enterprises, Cine World, Sport, Pubs, The hospitality industry, Pits (oh..already been done Mrs Thatcher) Steel works, fishing, damn, another one, keep on track Miro.

I know you can't get it into your head that this is possible but history proves you wrong.

I started out back at the beginning arguing with someone. No matter how much I told them they had one answer for me "I can't believe they would do that." That's all the argument they had..."I can't believe they would do that".

History tells us they would, in a heartbeat and the evidence just keeps on building up, day by day.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:46 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Is this taken from the "conspiracy manual" ?
Please tell us (me and anyone else who doesn't go with your view) just who has the vested interest in just about every economy on the planet "tanking" $billions.
As I've mentioned before, I do like a good conspiracy theory and some of you have spent a great deal of time and effort but, who are the "goodies" and who are the "baddies" here ?

Bill Gates has been painted as a bad guy but, despite his significant wealth, i dont see that.
So, who else should we try and avoid. ?

You don't see why there is a 600,000 petition to investigate him? Surely that must set you thinking...just a little bit?

What do think they, the architects of agenda 30, mean by the “great economic re set”

Re-open the pits? re build Wakey market? Beer gardens everywhere? Help my business to thrive by handing me back the two thirds lost? Build Trinity and Cas spanking brand new stadiums? Re clad tower blocks and put sprinklers in, Re-fund the NHS ? (good luck with that one.)

My guess is the only "economics" you'll see is the Amazon drone delivering you your new "5G smartphone" complete with apps into your lockdown home.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:02 pm  

Miro wrote:

You don't see why there is a 600,000 petition to investigate him? Surely that must set you thinking...just a little bit?

What do think they, the architects of agenda 30, mean by the “great economic re set”

Re-open the pits? re build Wakey market? Beer gardens everywhere? Help my business to thrive by handing me back the two thirds lost? Build Trinity and Cas spanking brand new stadiums? Re clad tower blocks and put sprinklers in, Re-fund the NHS ? (good luck with that one.)

this is what clouds your judgement while I'm sorry to hear that your not the only one to suffer losses.
people are losing their lives while you want to protect your wealth most others want to protect their health,

anyway carry on trying to convert 75 year olds it could become quite a unique cult

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:35 pm  

Miro wrote:

You don't see why there is a 600,000 petition to investigate him? Surely that must set you thinking...just a little bit?

What do think they, the architects of agenda 30, mean by the “great economic re set”

Re-open the pits? re build Wakey market? Beer gardens everywhere? Help my business to thrive by handing me back the two thirds lost? Build Trinity and Cas spanking brand new stadiums? Re clad tower blocks and put sprinklers in, Re-fund the NHS ? (good luck with that one.)

My guess is the only "economics" you'll see is the Amazon drone delivering you your new "5G smartphone" complete with apps into your lockdown home.

Re open the pits, if they do god knows who’s going to work down them, because the generation of today haven’t got a days graft between them unless they are going to cuddle and kiss the coil out

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:09 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

Re open the pits, if they do god knows who’s going to work down them, because the generation of today haven’t got a days graft between them unless they are going to cuddle and kiss the coil out

What's coil?