: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:38 pm  

charlie wrote:

Highest point in Wakefield isn't it?

IIRC its where the Grand old Duke of York nursery Rhyme is from as well

: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:46 pm  

kentcat wrote:

IIRC its where the Grand old Duke of York nursery Rhyme is from as well

that's sandal castle, if I'm not mistaken where the rhyme came from

: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:47 pm  

bfc1912 wrote:

They started to put bales at the bottom when one kid shot under the barrier and onto the main road.

now that takes some doing

: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:49 pm  

snowie wrote:

that's sandal castle, if I'm not mistaken where the rhyme came from

thought it was cannon ball hill, gonna do some research be back later

: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:56 pm  

kentcat wrote:

thought it was cannon ball hill, gonna do some research be back later

Nah - Sandal Castle!

: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:58 pm  

charlie wrote: Highest point in Wakefield isn't it? not sure it is now http://www.burohappold.com/BH/NWS_2008_ ... opout.aspx

charlie wrote: Highest point in Wakefield isn't it? not sure it is now http://www.burohappold.com/BH/NWS_2008_ ... opout.aspx

: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:00 pm  

snowie wrote: not sure it is now http://www.burohappold.com/BH/NWS_2008_ ... opout.aspx you've got too much time on your hands

snowie wrote: not sure it is now http://www.burohappold.com/BH/NWS_2008_ ... opout.aspx you've got too much time on your hands

: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:04 pm  

kentcat wrote:

you've got too much time on your hands

: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:37 pm  

kentcat wrote:

thought it was cannon ball hill, gonna do some research be back later

The last thing you need to be doing round Cannon Ball Hill is research!!!!

Sandal Castle was the grand old duke. Hence the old Trinity training facility on the Duke of York fields a stones throw off the Duke of York pub.

: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:10 pm  

Origins of the Rhyme

The words of the Nursery rhyme are believed to refer to Richard, Duke of York, claimant to the English throne and Protector of England and the Battle of Wakefield on December 30, 1460. The Duke of York and his army marched to his castle at Sandal where Richard took up a defensive position against the Lancastrian army. Sandal Castle was built on top of the site of an old Norman motte and bailey fortress. Its massive earthworks stood 33 feet (10m) above the original ground level ("he marched them up to the top of the hill"). In a moment of madness he left his stronghold in the castle and went down to make a direct attack on the Lancastrians " he marched them down again". His army was overwhelmed and Richard the Duke of York was killed

I believe the Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain memory aid for the colours of the rainbow came from the same battle.