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Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:37 am  

I'm on both sides of this fence.
Coke isn't performance enhancing quite like other bands drugs are so in my mind shouldn't be treated the same by the sport or drugs monitors.
However it isn't appropriate for a player either same as getting bladder Ed on alcohol.

If I ran a club I'd happily test ever player (and staff) every week.
If the cost is too high I would have very regular random tests on everyone and a few regular ones too.... there is just no place for it.

Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:32 am  

Drugs have been the scourge of society worldwide for donkeys years. They wreck lives (not just the idiots taking them!) and they make the scum of society who supply them rich, and often murderous in their efforts to ply their filth.
I take a hard line on them. IF proven then Walker should literally walk.
I don't want my great club tainted by drugs of any form. NO EXCUSES. Get rid.

Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:43 am  

Trinity1315 wrote:

Drugs have been the scourge of society worldwide for donkeys years. They wreck lives (not just the idiots taking them!) and they make the scum of society who supply them rich, and often murderous in their efforts to ply their filth.
I take a hard line on them. IF proven then Walker should literally walk.
I don't want my great club tainted by drugs of any form. NO EXCUSES. Get rid.

I think the last part of your sentence is the exact point. Yes it is common place these days, however these people aren't a normal jack the lad off the street. They are supposed to be role models. If i got tested at my place of work with drugs in my system i would be sacked on the spot. I worked in an industry where i would be tested regularly. The people doing the test would give you a form to fill in beforehand and it gives you the option to declare anything you have had which could mess the test up. Cough medicine, painkillers etc. If you have had any of those and you don't declare it then you fail the test because it shows up. Cannabis is in your system for up to 30 days, cocaine for usually about 2 and steroids for up to 2 years. If you are in a job where random testing is common place then to chance it you really have to be an idiot.

Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:28 am  

PopTart wrote:

I'm on both sides of this fence.
Coke isn't performance enhancing quite like other bands drugs are so in my mind shouldn't be treated the same by the sport or drugs monitors.
However it isn't appropriate for a player either same as getting bladder Ed on alcohol.

If I ran a club I'd happily test ever player (and staff) every week.
If the cost is too high I would have very regular random tests on everyone and a few regular ones too.... there is just no place for it.

No its not performance enhancing its an illegal class A drug that carries a maximum sentence of 5 years in prison for possession enough said

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Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:23 am  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:

No its not performance enhancing its an illegal class A drug that carries a maximum sentence of 5 years in prison for possession enough said

Wow. I just looked it up.
It's up to 7 years in prison for possession and up to life and/or unlimited fine for supply and production.

Clearly they don't do the max every time but why on earth would you risk that.

It's still not performance enhancing in the same way but I agree it's rightly illegal and takes it outside sport as an issue.

Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:43 am  

In my last job before retirement I was a drug and alcohol tester I carried out tests mainly after accidents or incidents on railway staff, however some companies do have random test carried out on their staff
I sub contracted to BUPA, who were just about to incorporate hair testing which can detect minute amounts of illicit substances AND not just head hair either bold people can have samples taken from any site usually from arms or legs
The test process was so accurate it could identify the specific strain of drug even the country of origin

Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:45 am  

Crazy you can get 7 years for something like that yet a rapist can be walking free within a few months, the whole drug legalisation needs to be looked into as the current system is not working.

Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:25 am  

inside man wrote:

Crazy you can get 7 years for something like that yet a rapist can be walking free within a few months, the whole drug legalisation needs to be looked into as the current system is not working.

Agree wholeheartedly IM but like I said earlier, it's mainly what they do to acquire and what they do after taking them that's the problem. I work and talk with them everyday and some of the conversions are horrendous.

Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:29 am  

Bit confusing that BLM, are you talking about drug users in general or the players ??

Re: Adam Walker : Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:50 am  

Prison.