Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:14 pm  

musson wrote:

Misguided?

So are you telling me that Hussain bought Bellevue for the good of his health ?
I don't care where I watch trin Play, there will be plenty of trin fans who feel the same as me too

Misguided...... grow up

100 percent spot on, hussain has invested going on over a million and closer to 2,000,000 between the two sites (fact) so why would he do it if he wasn't going to make money.? Reality is like musson i now live outside the area and in truth barnsley, newmarket , dews bury, belle vue are one and same to me from a geographic perspective

Just cant see how the club are going to unravel this and move forward - are they really going to go to court with 88 - dilapidations, the council - alleged breach of contract, york court ditto its so **** ing dispiriting after probably the best season since we won the yorkshire cup.

Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:31 pm  

musson wrote:

Misguided?

So are you telling me that Hussain bought Bellevue for the good of his health ?
I don't care where I watch trin Play, there will be plenty of trin fans who feel the same as me too

Misguided...... grow up

Seriously? I think you'll find trin fans care a lot about where we play, they want it to be in the city of Wakefield, this is why all this is going on. Thats not to say they won't watch them elsewhere but to say they don't care is just wrong. I guess there's a good chance we'll all find out soon enough anyway, the first season out of the city will be ok but then as time passes the fans will slowly drift away as the affinity between club and city becomes less and less. It has happened with other clubs, it will happen with this one as well.

And no Manni didn't buy BV for the good of his health, he bought it to make money. He doesn't need us for this to happen, in fact he couldn't give two hoots about us. Now he could make MORE money by this scheme going through which is why he is playing the game but he could make plenty enough by moving on without us and sticking housing & student accomadation on it. Don't think for a minute he is bothered about the time taken, 88M are big into land banking and will wait as long as needed. But if it looks like it isn't going to go his way he'll push the stadium scheme into touch and go in a different direction that doesn't involve us without a second glance. Thats why he is a wealthy businessman and we are sat here talking about him on a forum.

Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:17 pm  

You seem to know a lot about him and what he's going to do are you a fiend of his

Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:17 pm  

What no one has mentioned for a while, and I stand to be corrected on this if I am wrong, is the covenant (?) on BV that states that until we are provided with an alternative home then it must remain a rugby stadium for Wakefield Trinity ??

Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:18 pm  

Sorry a friend of his

Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:29 pm  

FIL wrote:

What no one has mentioned for a while, and I stand to be corrected on this if I am wrong, is the covenant (?) on BV that states that until we are provided with an alternative home then it must remain a rugby stadium for Wakefield Trinity ??

Yes that used to get mentioned quite regularly at one point and I thought that's why the BOI didn't basically kick us out when they owned the ground for all those years. Have we in fact got a covenant because it doesnt sound like it atm?

Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:41 pm  

roverman wrote:

You seem to know a lot about him and what he's going to do are you a fiend of his

Not directly but i know someone who does know him, and i know he usually gets what he wants. Normally i’m fairly positve as regards Wakey outcomes and we always tend to somehow survive. This time though the feeling deep down isn’t good. Fingers crossed i’m wrong.

Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:47 pm  

FIL wrote:

What no one has mentioned for a while, and I stand to be corrected on this if I am wrong, is the covenant (?) on BV that states that until we are provided with an alternative home then it must remain a rugby stadium for Wakefield Trinity ??

There isn’t a covenant on BV, it was a planning condition placed on the permission for housing that expired long ago. It could be requested to be added to any future application but it is at the behest of the planning commitee. Sport England aren’t as stringent as they used to be over pursuing these matters anymore either due to changes in government policy.

Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:30 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

There isn’t a covenant on BV, it was a planning condition placed on the permission for housing that expired long ago. It could be requested to be added to any future application but it is at the behest of the planning commitee. Sport England aren’t as stringent as they used to be over pursuing these matters anymore either due to changes in government policy.

That would be Box's planning committee then

Re: Clarity : Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:38 pm  

musson wrote:

The ground is a pot of gold for Hussain, just waiting for him almost within touching distance, we just need to stay calm a bit longer and as fans put our trust in Michael.

He has never once let any of us down since he took over and I think each time he has made a move regarding the ground it's got us a bit further on

Yes there are alternate routes for making money from Belle vues owner but it's within everyone's interests to get it redeveloped with us playing there for the next 100 years not the lengthy process of turning it in to a housing estate

The ground is not a pot of gold. The land is. But maybe you're right. I'm sure Manni will regret not being able to turn a large piece of prime real estate on a major route into a sports ground and be stuck with a lease that can generate an annual income but never be able to sell it on to a developer who might want to turn into a housing/retail/commercial/entertainment complex. Given how much he'll regret it, I'm sure he is currently battling alongside MC to make sure the Council do the right thing, rather than speaking and acting in a way more likely to ensure we move.

Oh, hang on ....