Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:23 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I don't get this "he deserves a shot" or "give him a game

Its not under 11s. The best team plays. Every time.
Sometimes the best team on the day may not be the same best team as last week because of niggles or number of games like at Easter but the best team should always play.

TJ needs to be God enough to keep MCB out. Same with Max, same with Annakin.
No playing them cos the dad will shout at the coach.

Well what is the best team then?! We can all name individuals who we think would make the team perform better, because we all see differing qualities in certain players, maybe certain ones' are more effective against certain opposition. CC started 'rotating' well before Easter, MCB played and scored against Huddersfield did he not? Did he then retain his place for the next game? No he didn't, why not? Would the winger who he replaced in the Huddersfield game not have scored the try(s) he did? What was the point in playing him in that game? Because the coach wanted him to have some game time, so he doesn't agree with your policy. In our 4 game winning run he felt the need to change things, if you actually listen to his reasons, he says things like, 'Joe Arundel will come into my thoughts for this weekend etc, because he needs to play.' He doesn't say, he'll be suited to the opposition etc does he?! I'll say again, if I was MCB I would have been miffed to have missed out, when I am third choice winger, and a centre plays in my position.

Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:36 pm  

Wildmoggy wrote:

Well what is the best team then?! We can all name individuals who we think would make the team perform better, because we all see differing qualities in certain players, maybe certain ones' are more effective against certain opposition. CC started 'rotating' well before Easter, MCB played and scored against Huddersfield did he not? Did he then retain his place for the next game? No he didn't, why not? Would the winger who he replaced in the Huddersfield game not have scored the try(s) he did? What was the point in playing him in that game? Because the coach wanted him to have some game time, so he doesn't agree with your policy. In our 4 game winning run he felt the need to change things, if you actually listen to his reasons, he says things like, 'Joe Arundel will come into my thoughts for this weekend etc, because he needs to play.' He doesn't say, he'll be suited to the opposition etc does he?! I'll say again, if I was MCB I would have been miffed to have missed out, when I am third choice winger, and a centre plays in my position.

However, BT was excellent and could arguably be 1 of our top 3 wingers, as well as in our top 2 centres. I do understand your point though. It's difficult to keep everyone happy and someone will move on eventually to get more game time elsewhere.

Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:41 pm  

Wildmoggy wrote:

Well what is the best team then?! We can all name individuals who we think would make the team perform better, because we all see differing qualities in certain players, maybe certain ones' are more effective against certain opposition. CC started 'rotating' well before Easter, MCB played and scored against Huddersfield did he not? Did he then retain his place for the next game? No he didn't, why not? Would the winger who he replaced in the Huddersfield game not have scored the try(s) he did? What was the point in playing him in that game? Because the coach wanted him to have some game time, so he doesn't agree with your policy. In our 4 game winning run he felt the need to change things, if you actually listen to his reasons, he says things like, 'Joe Arundel will come into my thoughts for this weekend etc, because he needs to play.' He doesn't say, he'll be suited to the opposition etc does he?! I'll say again, if I was MCB I would have been miffed to have missed out, when I am third choice winger, and a centre plays in my position.

Surely it’s simple... CC will decide the 17 based on one the previous week which with your example creates a solid case for MCB but how many days were there between games? We have no clue how training went, how MCB performed, how much effort MCB put in and so on and so on... there will be reasoning behind CC’s choice and it won’t all go down to the previous game. This also goes for everyone, don’t want it to seem like I have an issue with MCB!

Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:44 pm  

Trinity18 wrote:

Surely it’s simple... CC will decide the 17 based on one the previous week which with your example creates a solid case for MCB but how many days were there between games? We have no clue how training went, how MCB performed, how much effort MCB put in and so on and so on... there will be reasoning behind CC’s choice and it won’t all go down to the previous game. This also goes for everyone, don’t want it to seem like I have an issue with MCB!

Leading on from TheMightyTrin Bill isn’t an out and out centre, he was a prolific winger back in his NRL days...

[PopTart]

Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:46 pm  

Wildmoggy wrote:

Well what is the best team then?! We can all name individuals who we think would make the team perform better, because we all see differing qualities in certain players, maybe certain ones' are more effective against certain opposition. CC started 'rotating' well before Easter, MCB played and scored against Huddersfield did he not? Did he then retain his place for the next game? No he didn't, why not? Would the winger who he replaced in the Huddersfield game not have scored the try(s) he did? What was the point in playing him in that game? Because the coach wanted him to have some game time, so he doesn't agree with your policy. In our 4 game winning run he felt the need to change things, if you actually listen to his reasons, he says things like, 'Joe Arundel will come into my thoughts for this weekend etc, because he needs to play.' He doesn't say, he'll be suited to the opposition etc does he?! I'll say again, if I was MCB I would have been miffed to have missed out, when I am third choice winger, and a centre plays in my position.

As I said, there are reasons for rotation over and above who the best players are.
However I'm pretty sure Chester will not be picking someone a) because he is miffed that someone else played instead of him or b) because one of the fans thinks he should 'get a go'.

I'm a fan of MCB and I think he has more about I'm than you think, but the best way to get in the team above the other wingers is to show up and out perform them in training.
As for Tupou, he isn't a replacement winger. If he only played wing I think I'd find it hard to chose but I'd probably put him above TJ post injury. It's a great position to be in.

Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:49 pm  

TheMightyTrin wrote:

However, BT was excellent and could arguably be 1 of our top 3 wingers, as well as in our top 2 centres. I do understand your point though. It's difficult to keep everyone happy and someone will move on eventually to get more game time elsewhere.

He certainly was, he probably would be most people's first pick, he's very consistent, and i'm sure if he was given a rest he'd be well p***ed off!! If the backline was Jowitt, MCB, Arundel, Tupou & BJB that wouldn't bother me....if it was Grix, TJ, Lynne, Tupou & BJB that would arguably be stronger, but not by much, in an ideal world I think they all deserve to be playing regularly, but so far I think Chester has got it just about right, no-one who has come in has had an absolute mare in the backs have they yet??

Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:09 pm  

Trinity18 wrote:

Leading on from TheMightyTrin Bill isn’t an out and out centre, he was a prolific winger back in his NRL days...

Yep, I know he used to play there regularly, just for the record, not that anyones' interested I haven't got a problem with him playing there, I was just making the point MCB would have probably been disappointed not to have been given the nod.

Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:11 pm  

Wildmoggy wrote:

Well what is the best team then?! We can all name individuals who we think would make the team perform better, because we all see differing qualities in certain players, maybe certain ones' are more effective against certain opposition. CC started 'rotating' well before Easter, MCB played and scored against Huddersfield did he not? Did he then retain his place for the next game? No he didn't, why not? Would the winger who he replaced in the Huddersfield game not have scored the try(s) he did? What was the point in playing him in that game? Because the coach wanted him to have some game time, so he doesn't agree with your policy. In our 4 game winning run he felt the need to change things, if you actually listen to his reasons, he says things like, 'Joe Arundel will come into my thoughts for this weekend etc, because he needs to play.' He doesn't say, he'll be suited to the opposition etc does he?! I'll say again, if I was MCB I would have been miffed to have missed out, when I am third choice winger, and a centre plays in my position.

This just reads like, I think the coaching staff are xxxx , they should be sacked so I can take over

Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:19 pm  

Upanunder wrote:

This just reads like, I think the coaching staff are 5h1t3, they should be sacked so I can take over

Yeahhhh, they are doing a pretty duff job and it's time for a change

Re: Salford : Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:24 pm  

Upanunder wrote:

This just reads like, I think the coaching staff are 5h1t3, they should be sacked so I can take over

I say give the job to Mr. Bojo, provided he can commute from Down Under ok......