Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 1:55 pm  

PopTart wrote:

We shouldn't be trying anything out in games. Decide who the right one is and stick with it.
I hate this "He deserves a go" thing.

So he doesn't deserve more than the odd game here and there to prove himself?

Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 2:02 pm  

PopTart wrote:

We shouldn't be trying anything out in games. Decide who the right one is and stick with it.
I hate this "He deserves a go" thing.

Spot on, Chester should know his best side by now and any changes he needs for particular opposition.
Unless someone has a severe problem with form/injury, we should be trying to have the same pivots in every game, so that they manage games between them and better understand what the plan is.

Apart from a couple of exceptions, our offence has been bloody awful for most of the season.
Defensively (apart from Salford) we've been pretty good and generally, we aren't too far away, either in terms of winning games and where we need to be in the table.

Improving discipline and completion rates will do far more for the side than chopping and changing personnel.

Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 4:32 pm  

If we put Rocky in for the rest of the season, we have to be prepared to fail
Judging by the daft comments on here, we aren't allowed to fail WITH Finn, so what slack is Rocky gonna be cut.
How do you give an unproven 7 a long run without risking league position, its a balancing act with consequences.
Chezzy absolutely knows his team, why does anybody think Rocky isn't getting a good go at 7.
If 7 is gonna change, with top 8 nowhere near nailed on yet, it will have to be forced upon us, and I'm not even sure it'll be Rocky, though admittedly, options are limited.

Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 4:52 pm  

Finny has played around 125 SL games, according to Wiki. One would presume all in the pivots, and Hampshire 82. I would guess that only around 50% of those were in the halves.

Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 6:26 pm  

If we had a decent A-Team league as we did in the not too distant past all this "Is he good enough or isn't he?" nonsense would be sorted in the second team games. I seemed to work before.

[PopTart]

Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 6:31 pm  

ry21 wrote:

So he doesn't deserve more than the odd game here and there to prove himself?

I don't think he should get an 'odd' game at all.
If he's in for injury then he plays until the other guy shows he is better in training.
If he is in because he's better than Finn he stays there until he either proves he isn't good enough or Finn proves himself in training.
Changing 'just to see' doesn't benefit anyone.

Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 6:55 pm  

Ok how come the ball get's past slower when Finn is playing .How come the ball is not getting out to the wings .How come Miller is disappearing for the second half of matches.Hull match none of this happened .Rocky as played 7 again's Hull Leeds,and Cas . We have played Finn against Salford and Huddersfield so called lesser teams lost them both .Let give Rocky a go against a lesser team.Any body notice how the second half of most of the matches that Finn as played have seen a poor performance .Ok if we keep playing him let him come on for 20 mins sub him ,then come on for 20 mins again .Playing Finn for the full 80 mins is killing us.

Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 8:57 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I don't think he should get an 'odd' game at all.
If he's in for injury then he plays until the other guy shows he is better in training.
If he is in because he's better than Finn he stays there until he either proves he isn't good enough or Finn proves himself in training.
Changing 'just to see' doesn't benefit anyone.

I dont disagree that we shouldn’t change for changes sake, my point is people want a young, hungry half,with a point to prove. We have one of those already, and haven’t had to break the bank to sign him.

Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 8:59 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I don't think he should get an 'odd' game at all.
If he's in for injury then he plays until the other guy shows he is better in training.
If he is in because he's better than Finn he stays there until he either proves he isn't good enough or Finn proves himself in training.
Changing 'just to see' doesn't benefit anyone.

I agree with this but it isn't happening is it - and that's why such as Hampshire only get the odd game, because as soon as the guy they replace is fit, they are dropped.
I appreciate it's the coaches call, but it doesn't allow the replacing player to develop.

Re: Finn time is up : Mon May 14, 2018 9:39 pm  

Our attack in the oppositions 20 has been terrible all season- it has been masked by winning those close games early on---- LUCK???

we have close to the 2 fastest wingers in super league who never see the ball

I am afraid though we don't have answers to it in the current squad ! unless we buy a quality halfback mid season.


On our shopping list for next year must be a half back!!!!