Re: Keegan Hirst : Wed May 30, 2018 8:51 am  

PopTart wrote:

I like Keegan and I think he is well worth his place.

I think the dropped ball thing has come because he can sometimes drop as an unforced error. PP is the same. Neither are bad enough to not play them but both could work on ball security, as I'm sure they do.
Miller as an example has much more difficult passes to catch in more difficult positions.

I've said this in the past, apart from Fifita I don't think we really have any ball playing forwards. Huby usually offers a decent offloading game but England, Hirst, Arona and even Baldwinson (from what I've seen) all seem to be just a one trick pony where as in other sides you see forwards getting involved in the plays.

Not a bad thing I guess, they're in the side to make the metres and lay the fundamentals for the backs.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Wed May 30, 2018 10:59 am  

Trinity18 wrote:

I've said this in the past, apart from Fifita I don't think we really have any ball playing forwards. Huby usually offers a decent offloading game but England, Hirst, Arona and even Baldwinson (from what I've seen) all seem to be just a one trick pony where as in other sides you see forwards getting involved in the plays.

Not a bad thing I guess, they're in the side to make the metres and lay the fundamentals for the backs.

I don't think the game really has any ball playing forwards these days. Sure there are players who can 'offload' a pass but they are not ball players.

When I think of ball playing forwards I think of such as Bill Ashurst, Jim Fiddler, Harry Pinner, Mick Adams and the last great ball handling forward produced in the UK , Lee Crooks. The last one I've seen in a Wakefield shirt who could fall into the category is David Solomona. The game has changed and is now more based on power and strength.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Wed May 30, 2018 11:55 am  

Danny Sculthorpe

Re: Keegan Hirst : Wed May 30, 2018 12:23 pm  

Bill Ashurst was better on one leg than most modern day forward s. He didn't need to make any hard yards. He just attracted 3 or 4 defenders then slipped the ball to a back who shot through the gap in the defence he had created.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Wed May 30, 2018 12:25 pm  

[quote="Tommy Duckfingers"]Danny Sculthorpe[/quo

He was at Cas but, was a bit of a let down for us.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Wed May 30, 2018 12:51 pm  

Huby is a quality forward but offers nothing off the bench and needs to start and play long minutes, he is very much like Scruton, what you get in the first minute, you get in the 80th.

[PopTart]

Re: Keegan Hirst : Wed May 30, 2018 6:04 pm  

Arona has always been involved in the play until this year.
I think it's more a Chester thing than the players not being capable.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Thu May 31, 2018 8:57 am  

Keegan is a massive unit and seems willing - but he is flawed; in a similar manner to Talima Tautai, he was born with the unfortunate affliction of having his hands on backwards. Unlike Tautai though, he also doesn't run his weight or size - and he smokes like a chimney, which can't help his conditioning.

I like him and I want him to succeed - I guess this season will be the one that decides if he has a future with us or not; at this stage, I expect the jury is still out.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Thu May 31, 2018 9:45 am  

FickleFingerOfFate wrote:

Huby is a quality forward but offers nothing off the bench and needs to start and play long minutes, he is very much like Scruton, what you get in the first minute, you get in the 80th.

Is he? Maybe he was a couple of years ago but I'm not seeing it.

Re: Keegan Hirst : Thu May 31, 2018 9:56 am  

I agree Adam_Harrison9... Form seems to have disappeared.