Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:26 pm  

Willzay wrote:

We’ve been letting Wigan and Hudds catch us up. London, Leeds and Hull KR are only three wins behind us. Time for the team and the coaches to pull their fingers out.

We haven’t been letting teams catch up, these teams have played well to beat whom they have . We’ve been forced to
Play a team short of 5:6:7 first and even second choice players in some cases . Plus then playing players that are not fit or ready to play . Nothing much you can do in these circumstances and it may get worse before it gets better .

Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:29 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

Have we really though? Still in the same dump in Belle Vue, the same amount of CC semi final appearances as part time Halifax, and no playoffs in the league.

I was being ever so slightly sarcastic

Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:19 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I'd like to disagree if that's ok.

Firstly injuries may not be an excuse but they are a reason. Changing formations and partnerships will always affect execution and for me that is what is wrong at the moment.
Also, there was no lack of effort yesterday. We forced 4 drop outs from the off so there was no slow start, we just didn't execute the play correctly and put a poor pass out that ended up in touch.
Same with the moans about wet weather rugby. Leeds defended the middle well so one out rugby wasn't working. Brough's kicking was exactly right. We just messed up the play to get the ball with Miller trying to catch on the full rather than letting them make the mistake or Hampshire trying for the ball and catching the player off the ball.
Again the game changing move was great in that the ball went to the new guy out wide who broke free. Hampshire made the effort to catch up but ran rowards him rather than leaving a passing option so the fullback has the intercept and pass within reach.
BJB not diving. It's all execution.
Sau could have had 3 tries if the ball had been a good pass.

when the break was made rocky got with him ready for the pass, the player making the break is totally responsible for what happens next. Did he draw the fullback no did he go right to take the full back away no did he try to turn him away from the support runner no and lastly why did he pass if he couldn’t get a good ball out, it’s basic stuff you learn kids put the fullback where you want him. He broke through and didn’t know what to do simple as that.

Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:21 pm  

Willzay wrote:

We’ve been letting Wigan and Hudds catch us up. London, Leeds and Hull KR are only three wins behind us. Time for the team and the coaches to pull their fingers out.

London is our last game of the season and my dread is and lets be honest its totally Trinity's style, that this will be a relegation decider. I thought those days were gone but its more than possible, it has RL written all over it!

I don't give a stuff who or whats to blame as its all obvious and unavoidable to a great extent. However London don't care about that nor do any of the teams below us. Regardless of who is or isn't available we need to get a win. It can be done, London just defeated a team that whooped us and lets not pretend here, even a half fit Trinity should be a match for London and at the moment we clearly aren't.

I can't say this enough, I'm not blaming anyone, but I am worried, we need to find something and soon.

If I get a kicking for saying this so be it.

Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:29 pm  

[quote="Fishermanscap"]London is our last game of the season and my dread is and lets be honest its totally Trinity's style, that this will be a relegation decider. I thought those days were gone but its more than possible, it has RL written all over it!

I don't give a stuff who or whats to blame as its all obvious and unavoidable to a great extent. However London don't care about that nor do any of the teams below us. Regardless of who is or isn't available we need to get a win. It can be done, London just defeated a team that whooped us and lets not pretend here, even a half fit Trinity should be a match for London and at the moment we clearly aren't.

I can't say this enough, I'm not blaming anyone, but I am worried, we need to find something and soon.

If I get a kicking for saying this so be it.[/quote
Your sounding like this is the first time you have seen us in this situation.. Back the whole squad what will be will be

[PopTart]

Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:06 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

when the break was made rocky got with him ready for the pass, the player making the break is totally responsible for what happens next. Did he draw the fullback no did he go right to take the full back away no did he try to turn him away from the support runner no and lastly why did he pass if he couldn’t get a good ball out, it’s basic stuff you learn kids put the fullback where you want him. He broke through and didn’t know what to do simple as that.

I agree with what you say but Hampshire made it harder for him. He either needed to keep a straight line or move away but running closer took his options away.
I still think he should have kept the ball and dummied but Hampshire is partly to blame in my opinion.

Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:29 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

Have we really though? Still in the same dump in Belle Vue, the same amount of CC semi final appearances as part time Halifax, and no playoffs in the league.

and make no mistake about it are in the relegation dog fight this year now!!!!

Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:29 pm  

Willzay wrote:

I’m certainly not happy with the way things have been sliding recently, but if you think we haven’t come a long way from 2015, where we were getting beaten by 40 or 50 points nearly every week, including the 80-0 at Warrington.

I do agree though if the club says they’re going to have a crack at the cup and the top 5, they can hardly expect the fans to not be disappointed at the recently meagre attempts of doing both.

But this is definitely a long way from 2015.

it could be 80-0 in two weeks time

Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:17 am  

PopTart wrote:

I agree with what you say but Hampshire made it harder for him. He either needed to keep a straight line or move away but running closer took his options away.
I still think he should have kept the ball and dummied but Hampshire is partly to blame in my opinion.

Agreed - between them, they did just about everything wrong; and when it became obvious to the ball carrier that he had no options, he should have dummied the fat lad and tried to make back the space that Hampshire had taken away.

All hindsight I know, but it did look fairly simple.

Re: I just cannot understand the criticism : Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:25 am  

All ifs, buts and maybes. Remember Batchelor chose to dummy and threw a try away against Catalans at ‘Magic’.
Can’t remember him copping the criticism Tanginoa is , who in my opinion had a good game against Leeds.