Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:44 pm  

Kevs Head wrote:

“Do you think the following should be nationalised/run in the public sector?
NHS 84% yes
Schools 81% yes
Royal Mail 65% yes
Railways 64% yes
Water 59% yes
Energy 58%

This was a Yougov poll done in May 2017. Not very current but more up to date and decisive than the 2016 referendum.

What was the sample rate?

Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:49 pm  

Just had a look, 1936. I do believe a few more than that voted in the Referendum.

Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:57 pm  

RickK wrote:

Just had a look, 1936. I do believe a few more than that voted in the Referendum.

Excellent example of false equivalence.

Nonetheless, you have your evidence; it was quite widely reported at the time that some of the Labour manifesto commitments had widespread support - in particular the re-nationalisation agenda - which is perhaps why they did significantly better at the last snap GE than the polls suggested they would, taking away Mrs May's majority in the process, and creating a hung parliament which has broadly reflected the similarly hung electorate ever since.

Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:11 pm  

Kevs Head wrote:

64% support renationalising the railways. Only 19% oppose it. (BMG Research, June 2018)

Public Utilities should never have been privatised in the first place. As Harold MacMillan said of Thatcher 'she's selling off the family silver'

Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:31 pm  

Kevs Head wrote:

Irrespective of views on Brexit, anybody who votes for the Tories is voting for another five years of austerity, cuts to vital public services, the continued degradation of the NHS and the ‘bonfire of regulations’ (ie. working peoples’ hard earned rights and protection) not to mention real cuts to income caused by a hard, harmful Brexit. Anybody who says, ‘I’ve been a Labour voter all my life but this time I’m going with Boris’ needs to give his/her head a good shake.

I’m one who will definitely not vote for labour again, especially with Corbin at the helm , but also will not vote Tory. Everything that the election means to me is Brexit so someone is going to have to be good to sell it to me. Hope Creigh knocks on my door again, but I doubt it after last time.

Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:40 pm  

bren2k wrote:

None of that makes any sense.

The Labour Party under Corbyn are not radical by any measure - and what he's proposing is a tried and tested model of Democratic Socialism, which is very successful in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Canada, Ireland and others. Portraying it in any other way, is either deliberate misinformation, or a direct lift from a Daily Mail headline.

Interestingly, the stuff that really exercises the establishment - renationalising public utilities - has massive support among the electorate, regardless of which party they support. Go figure!

Must be an accidental oversight on your part but you missed out Corbyns glowing support of how Venezuela was being run. And now they're either starving or eating they're pets with inflation running at a zillion percent.
And yes he has supported terrorists in the past that is undeniable. But as they say one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:44 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

All the three main party leaders have their knockers. Jo Swinson probably more than the others.

Be careful WWWW, you’ll have the Politically Correct brigade onto you,

Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:51 pm  

Wotsupcas, you have been brainwashed by the right wing media, who are owned by billionaires, who are scared about having to pay their fair share of tax, under a Corbyn led Labour government. But don’t worry, you’re not the only one. Have a read of Labours manifesto and tell me how many of their policies you disagree with. Or, just carry on believing the least trusted media in Europe, it’s up to you.

Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:56 pm  

Without trawling through every post so far in this thread. I will just make my small contribution to the discussion.
How may of that 66% vote to leave did so on the FALSE promise of £350 million for the NHS each month and zero immigration. Total lies fabricated by Johnson and his mates. anyone voting Conservative is basically saying that they don't want a NHS; they are happy with zero hour contracts; they think paying for university education is a good thing, and a million other reasons. The fairest outcome to the whole Brexit issue is another referendum, but this time give the people the TRUTH before they vote.

Re: O/T General Election : Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:04 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Without trawling through every post so far in this thread. I will just make my small contribution to the discussion.
How may of that 66% vote to leave did so on the FALSE promise of £350 million for the NHS each month and zero immigration. Total lies fabricated by Johnson and his mates. anyone voting Conservative is basically saying that they don't want a NHS; they are happy with zero hour contracts; they think paying for university education is a good thing, and a million other reasons. The fairest outcome to the whole Brexit issue is another referendum, but this time give the people the TRUTH before they vote.

As a leaver I’m happy for another vote, as long as there is an option for a clean break brexit now we all know the facts. Would you agree to that option.