Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:28 pm  

Who would you replace Chester with then Egg Banjo?

And with the injuries we had last year which coach anywhere in the world in the last 100 years would have won silverware with the squads we were fielding ?

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:03 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

I support the club financially, more so than many. I buy from the club shop regularly and I have Trinity TV to watch games back. I just decided to refuse to go and watch the games live while Chester is in charge, and I'm far from the only one who has made the same decision.

As I've said, I support the club and will continue to do so as I have for so many years, but I'm not supporting the current coach.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and you can do whatever you want with your time and money.
However, apart from last season, one where we were decimated by injuries, Chaster's record is as good as any coach we've had in the SL era and in my time of watching, just about as good as any coach we've had.

I'm happy to forgive what happened last season, although it was definitely squeaky bum time during our last game against London and I'm also happy to wait until we have something close to our first choice 17 on the park this time around.

Unless Trinity get a really wealthy owner (no disrespect to MC here), who is happy to lump £1000,000 + every season to buy success, realistically, where do you think Trinity should be in the current 12 club top flight ?

Just to get some perspective, it may be worth looking at our historical record over the last 40 years

Using this barometer, I would suggest that Chester is doing ok.

I'm also intrigued as to why you would take on Trinity TV and spend in the club shop and yet not go to games because of who is currently coaching the side.
Surely it's all Wakefield Trinity ? just because it's on Trinity TV, its still the same coach, staff and club owner ??

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:20 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

I support the club financially, more so than many. I buy from the club shop regularly and I have Trinity TV to watch games back. I just decided to refuse to go and watch the games live while Chester is in charge.

Can't argue with that, although I'm not sure what you can buy on a regular basis, scratch cards maybe?.

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:17 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

Can't argue with that, although I'm not sure what you can buy on a regular basis, scratch cards maybe?.

I'm not loaded and the kit is always released around Christmas time. So my relatives get shirts etc for Christmas and then I usually buy shirts/polos/hoodies over the subsequent months. I've got Trinity TV because I paid for the year before I decided not to back Chester at the games, and I always put into the youth structure

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:18 pm  

What worries and annoys me about match officials, particularly James Child is that they are regarded by Ganson and the Rugby League as infallible and can do no wrong. If a coach or club criticise them they are punished. Players can be charged with bringing the game into disrepute but bad officials don't appear to be viewed in the same way. THEY ARE NOT GODS (even though James Child has the right initials), and the games hierarchy has to recognise there are good refs; there are bad refs and there are b****y terrible refs.

As mentioned elsewhere on the "Child" thread; why can't there be a system where after a game each club could put three questions each to the referee and then throw open the floor to journalists and let them have a question session.

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:39 pm  

I don't think it would be right to question incidents there and then in public after the match, the chances are that the official won't fully remember it, and the coaches will still be angry about whatever decision they feel was against them. Better for all parties to go away and re-watch the game as it often becomes clear why a call was made in a particular way on watching it over

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:02 pm  

The problem with punishing refs for mistake is they are in such short supply anyway...

There definitely is a system in place to drop officials for mistakes or poor performances...I used to regularly speak to one of the best touch judges in super league and remember one morning seeing him and he was absolutely gutted that he’d made a wrong call on tv and had been dropped to the championship the following weekend...

The major problem for me is consistency...I can accept the odd wrong calls as all refs will make mistakes...they’re human...just like players will make mistakes...hate to see where they penalise one team for say an offside, or a ruck infringement and then totally ignore the other side doing it like the offside we got against us...fine, yes, we’re offside penalise us but don’t then go the entire half and not penalise the other team once when they were offside countless times...

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:05 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

I don't think it would be right to question incidents there and then in public after the match, the chances are that the official won't fully remember it, and the coaches will still be angry about whatever decision they feel was against them. Better for all parties to go away and re-watch the game as it often becomes clear why a call was made in a particular way on watching it over

That's a fair point.
However, they are not accountable at all.
There should be something on place following the game - the next day or the day after - for the refs and coaches to meet to discuss decisions.
They shouldn't be seen as bombproof.
After all, they will retain their job regardless - players and coaches won't.

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:12 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

I don't think it would be right to question incidents there and then in public after the match, the chances are that the official won't fully remember it, and the coaches will still be angry about whatever decision they feel was against them. Better for all parties to go away and re-watch the game as it often becomes clear why a call was made in a particular way on watching it over

But how many times do we watch Sky games and Trinity tv and see incidents that the ref missed that Stevie Wonder could have seen. While ever there’s a shortage of officials they will answer to no one.

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:58 pm  

Well he will have to answer to the paying customer because I won't go if he's the referee just like it put me off going last night