Re: Whose advice do you take? : Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:19 am  

upthecats wrote:

We’ve gone backwards because in his first two seasons we were very lucky with injuries and the teams with much more financial power than us who we finished above have been able to go out and spend big money and sign top quality players we can’t afford. On the whole in his time I think Chester has had more successes than failures in his signings, especially when you take into account the budget he has to work with...

Yep

Re: Whose advice do you take? : Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:22 am  

Egg Banjo wrote:

You say he deserves the chance to see out this farce of a season... Why does he deserve that chance? What have you seen in the last 5/10/15/20/25 games which warrants that chance? Injuries aren't an excuse, every club has them. Covid isn't an excuse, every club has had to deal with it.

We had our worst season under Chester last year and were within minutes of being relegated, and have gone backwards both on the pitch and with recruitment.

Maybe he needs to start listening to the fans that want the team to progress instead of listening to the ones who are happy for the club to sleep walk into relegation and likely administration

"This farce of a season"
Don't know if you noticed but this thing called Covid 19 occurred. Kinda wiped all
Sports out..threatens the existence of rugby league as a sport and Wakefield trinity as a club. Think a dose of reality is required. And "last year" we had a shocking injury situation. Impossible to handle and hats off to all for keeping us up. As for fans who accept mediocrity. No we don't. , But we do accept reality and we do SUPPORT our club

Re: Whose advice do you take? : Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:27 am  

Mick Amos 9 WTW wrote:

I never said all fans who aren't happy are grudge fans. Far from it!! There are grudge fans. Not many, but there certainly are some! Also if genuine folk want a change in coach, it doesn't fuss me. I get it. In every sport, some fans want change, some fans dont. We're no different.
One of my points was the past 18 months has been incredibly difficult for the club and it's been extremely trying for Chezzy and the coaches and I've empathy with that.
But you've cleared it up for me if I was in any doubt, you want a new coach

Grudge fans a) bit of a contradiction in terms
B) wish we had 12000 of them that turned up and paid their money

As regards last couple years where it all seemed to go wrong was the Huddersfield away game lacking 6-7 first teamers (or 11 if you use the same method as some on here ! ) we thumped a much fancied Huddersfield team. After that we just never seemed to have shown the same team spirit - or maybe it coincided with Dave starting his fitness injury woes.

I think what we all find frustrating is that actually even with injuries we have a better team on paper than some that comprised entirely of kids loaners etc who still managed a better win average .

In current squad we have rookie of year 2017 in max jowitt, 3 players that have been in dream team. In virtually every position bar scrum half we have at least two experienced players with super league reputation

Potentially in next couple weeks Available

Jowitt walker gigot
Bjb Johnston Kay
Lynne tupo
Hampshire
Miller
Props battye coppi fifita green tanginoa navarette Tangata
Hookers wood woods
Second row ashurst tanginoa crowther batchelor Kirmond
Lf arona westerman

And that’s excluding gwaze aydin bailey Croft



Tbh if he can’t get a win out of these players

Re: Whose advice do you take? : Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:51 am  

Forgot Pitts oops

Re: Whose advice do you take? : Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:42 pm  

We were not good prior to the Covid break but whatever happened during this time has not only caused the performances to worsen but the team spirit to deteriorate. It appears we are no longer comfortable as a team and are now just individuals. The furlough may have saved the club but not done much for the team.

Re: Whose advice do you take? : Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:05 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

We had 5 players missing yesterday, I could argue it was 4, you might argue 6 but either way it’s not an excuse for the dross we’re getting served

Wasn’t dross though was it. We have played badly but not on Friday. You can’t have it both ways. If the performances are improving then surely the direction is positive. If they were the same or were getting worse you’d have a point.

Re: Whose advice do you take? : Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:27 pm  

vastman wrote:

Wasn’t dross though was it. We have played badly but not on Friday. You can’t have it both ways. If the performances are improving then surely the direction is positive. If they were the same or were getting worse you’d have a point.

Did Hull play at the same standard as Catalans or Warrington?

Re: Whose advice do you take? : Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:10 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

Did Hull play at the same standard as Catalans or Warrington?

Why dont you tell us seeing as you believe you are the Oracle...

Re: Whose advice do you take? : Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:48 pm  

BarnsleyGull wrote:

Why dont you tell us seeing as you believe you are the Oracle...

It's not a tricky question, but I guess you've figured out that by admitting that Hull didn't play as at the same standard as Catalans, that means that there might not have been the proclaimed improvement in Trinity's performance, but just that they appeared to play better because they faced a weaker opposition.

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Re: Whose advice do you take? : Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:24 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

It's not a tricky question, but I guess you've figured out that by admitting that Hull didn't play as at the same standard as Catalans, that means that there might not have been the proclaimed improvement in Trinity's performance, but just that they appeared to play better because they faced a weaker opposition.

You could just as easily say our improved enthusiasm and defense caused Hull not to play as well.