Re: All Things New Stadium : Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:39 am  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Something I forgot to mention that JM spoke about when asked about the 4G pitch. He seemed a bit ambiguous in his reply, I got the feeling the decision between plastic and grass has not yet been finalised, but the pitch will only be sorted, after the East Stand/North Stand building work is completed.

Strange as that formed quite a big piece in the business case I thought. Grass is preferential to me but its also limiting, but that said I'd rather the cost go into the stands if it ever became an either or.

Re: All Things New Stadium : Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:29 pm  

On one document (the statement of community involvement) in the resubmission pack it states due to the pandemic 4 things that have been scaled back due to covid/finances. This includes hybrid pitch now to be a 4G pitch. This may be why he didn’t fully commit to what the playing surface will be? Aswell as stating 400 covers in hospitality down to 300 covers, wrestle room now funded by the club, and gym facilities done at a later phase and when finding available

Re: All Things New Stadium : Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:03 pm  

WakiWildcats wrote:

On one document (the statement of community involvement) in the resubmission pack it states due to the pandemic 4 things that have been scaled back due to covid/finances. This includes hybrid pitch now to be a 4G pitch. This may be why he didn’t fully commit to what the playing surface will be? Aswell as stating 400 covers in hospitality down to 300 covers, wrestle room now funded by the club, and gym facilities done at a later phase and when finding available

Yes, a lot has changed since the initial reports almost 2 years ago. JM mentioned a figure of £12 million at the Friday lunch, just shows how much building costs and materials have risen in 2 years.

Extract from Social Value Report produced by SLC, Consultants, February 2020
Grass Pitch with floodlights
Full size hybrid1 floodlit grass pitch to fully comply with super league requirements and be available outside of club use for community use.

Wrestle Room2
To meet club requirements and be available for limited community use by community clubs (martial arts, wrestling etc;)

Strength and Conditioning Gym Facility3
To meet club requirements and be available for membership and casual use, based community use facility offering a unique Strength and Conditioning offer.

Group Exercise
2 x Group exercise studios (30 class size each with the ability to create one large studio space)


Hospitality, Conferencing and Events
Ability to cater for up to 400 covers4 on a match day and to provide opportunities for

Since this report was produced, and in the light of the Covid pandemic and its impact on the availability of funding from WMDC, the ambition of the redevelopment has been scaled back as described in the notes below.
1 Now intended as 4G surface. Minimal impact of future uses
2 Now completed at the Club’s expense
3 May be delayed until subsequent phase, subject to determination of level of S106 funding
4 Revised to 300 covers

Re: All Things New Stadium : Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:28 am  

Thought trinity were paying for the pitch anyway?

Re: All Things New Stadium : Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:24 am  

cosmicat wrote:

Thought trinity were paying for the pitch anyway?

They are from what I’m told but it’s all part of the same re-development.

The problem here is that JM is asked on numerous occasion to answer questions regarding the stadium and it’s tricky to be consistent as the points being answered vary so much.

Not sure where the hybrid to 4G came from.

What I think he’s saying is that the clubs ability to install the pitch will depend on revenue. I suspect he was talking just after the Omnicron version of Covid was announce and feared another lock down. Thankfully that fear now seems groundless.

It’s hard at the moment to be certain about anything which is why I personally haven’t bugged JM or any of my other contacts. Let’s just hope planning actually happens on the 16th and gets past.

Then I think is the time for more detailed questions and replies.

Re: All Things New Stadium : Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:40 pm  

Looks like the planning meeting is actually going ahead. This link http://citizen.wakefield.gov.uk/cabinet ... l-meeting/ Should take you to the meeting streaming service on the day Kev W60349 has started another thread, but I’m just keeping this one updated. Dear Sir/Madam Date: Service Director for Planning, Transportation and Strategic Highways Bronwen Knight Wakefield One PO Box 700 Burton Street Wakefield WF1 2EB Typetalk calls welcome 08 December 2021 CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION AT PLANNING AND HIGHWAYS COMMITTEE LOCATION: PROPOSAL: Belle Vue Stadium, Doncaster Road, Wakefield, WF1 5EY Redevelopment of existing stadium comprising: demolition of existing east stand and replacement with 2-storey stand with 2,507 seated capacity and associated facilities, internal refurbishment of the Rollin Shack to provide additional facilities including gym, surfacing of car park, provision of fan zone, resurfacing of the pitch, upgrade to the existing floodlights, permanent electronic display screen and re-surfacing of existing north stand. I am writing to advise you that the above planning application will be considered at the Planning and Highways Committee on 16th December 2021 commencing at 10am at the County Hall, Bond St, Wakefield, WF1 2QW Members of the public and applicants (or their agents), are able to speak at Planning and Highways Committee Meetings. Normally one person representing objectors will be allowed to speak for three minutes. The applicant, agent, or one person supporting the application, will also be able to speak for three minutes, and an elected councillor for the applicable ward area. The time limits and number of individuals allowed to speak will be varied only in exceptional circumstances, at the discretion of the Chair. Please note that, in the case of petitions, the petition organiser (if known) or the first petition signatory will be notified by this letter and not those people signing the petition. Due to the need to maintain social distancing and the restricted space available in the Council Chamber, there is only limited space to allow the registered participants (speakers), the public and a press officer to physically attend the meeting as well as the Councillors and supporting Council Officers. Therefore if you are not registered to take an active part in the meeting then you should view the meeting online using the link provided overleaf, as it is highly unlikely that you will be allowed to enter the room to observe the meeting in person. If you do wish to physically attend to watch the meeting, you should contact a member of our support team on 07341 788229 or reply to this email; however, as stated above, there is only limited space for the public, and this will be allocated on a first come first serve basis. The meeting will be broadcast live on the internet. A link to the meetings stream will be available on the meeting agenda and through the Council’s website; (http://citizen.wakefield.gov.uk/cabinet ... l-meeting/). Should you wish to register to speak at the meeting, please could you contact a member of our Support Team on 07341 788229 or reply to this email. To assist with the administration process, you must contact us no later than 12 noon two working days before the meeting. Further guidance will be provided to registered speakers. If you do not register or contact us prior to this deadline, then you will not be allowed to speak – the Chair has discretion in this matter where special circumstances have been demonstrated and accepted You do not need to reply to this letter or submit any further written representations. You can view the Agenda and Reports online at: http://mg.wakefield.gov.uk/ieListMeetin ... tteeId=308 Kind Regards Development Management Planning Services Wakefield Council

Looks like the planning meeting is actually going ahead. This link http://citizen.wakefield.gov.uk/cabinet ... l-meeting/ Should take you to the meeting streaming service on the day Kev W60349 has started another thread, but I’m just keeping this one updated. Dear Sir/Madam Date: Service Director for Planning, Transportation and Strategic Highways Bronwen Knight Wakefield One PO Box 700 Burton Street Wakefield WF1 2EB Typetalk calls welcome 08 December 2021 CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION AT PLANNING AND HIGHWAYS COMMITTEE LOCATION: PROPOSAL: Belle Vue Stadium, Doncaster Road, Wakefield, WF1 5EY Redevelopment of existing stadium comprising: demolition of existing east stand and replacement with 2-storey stand with 2,507 seated capacity and associated facilities, internal refurbishment of the Rollin Shack to provide additional facilities including gym, surfacing of car park, provision of fan zone, resurfacing of the pitch, upgrade to the existing floodlights, permanent electronic display screen and re-surfacing of existing north stand. I am writing to advise you that the above planning application will be considered at the Planning and Highways Committee on 16th December 2021 commencing at 10am at the County Hall, Bond St, Wakefield, WF1 2QW Members of the public and applicants (or their agents), are able to speak at Planning and Highways Committee Meetings. Normally one person representing objectors will be allowed to speak for three minutes. The applicant, agent, or one person supporting the application, will also be able to speak for three minutes, and an elected councillor for the applicable ward area. The time limits and number of individuals allowed to speak will be varied only in exceptional circumstances, at the discretion of the Chair. Please note that, in the case of petitions, the petition organiser (if known) or the first petition signatory will be notified by this letter and not those people signing the petition. Due to the need to maintain social distancing and the restricted space available in the Council Chamber, there is only limited space to allow the registered participants (speakers), the public and a press officer to physically attend the meeting as well as the Councillors and supporting Council Officers. Therefore if you are not registered to take an active part in the meeting then you should view the meeting online using the link provided overleaf, as it is highly unlikely that you will be allowed to enter the room to observe the meeting in person. If you do wish to physically attend to watch the meeting, you should contact a member of our support team on 07341 788229 or reply to this email; however, as stated above, there is only limited space for the public, and this will be allocated on a first come first serve basis. The meeting will be broadcast live on the internet. A link to the meetings stream will be available on the meeting agenda and through the Council’s website; (http://citizen.wakefield.gov.uk/cabinet ... l-meeting/). Should you wish to register to speak at the meeting, please could you contact a member of our Support Team on 07341 788229 or reply to this email. To assist with the administration process, you must contact us no later than 12 noon two working days before the meeting. Further guidance will be provided to registered speakers. If you do not register or contact us prior to this deadline, then you will not be allowed to speak – the Chair has discretion in this matter where special circumstances have been demonstrated and accepted You do not need to reply to this letter or submit any further written representations. You can view the Agenda and Reports online at: http://mg.wakefield.gov.uk/ieListMeetin ... tteeId=308 Kind Regards Development Management Planning Services Wakefield Council

Re: All Things New Stadium : Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:27 pm  

Is the plot 8 application at Newmarket being heard as well?

Re: All Things New Stadium : Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:02 pm  

Belle Vue wrote:

Is the plot 8 application at Newmarket being heard as well?

Yes I believe

Re: All Things New Stadium : Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:45 pm  

vastman wrote: Yes I believe Page 1 confirmation of both applications Click link. http://mg.wakefield.gov.uk/documents/s1 ... 202021.pdf

vastman wrote: Yes I believe Page 1 confirmation of both applications Click link. http://mg.wakefield.gov.uk/documents/s1 ... 202021.pdf

Re: All Things New Stadium : Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:56 am  

Was it planned to have a café opening every day?