Re: Vaccine Passports? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:32 pm  

vastman wrote:

Not how I understand it, being triple vaccinated does offer you protection against Omnicron in the same way it does against the others, ie it improves your bodies immune response giving you a much-improved ability to fight it off.

Omnicron so far doesn't appear more lethal, just more transmissible. So far we have been lucky in that none of the variants has been more deadly than the first, should the next mutation do this then we may be in bother as the time lapse between a revised vaccine to become available may be too long. Hence the semi lockdown.

Whatever, Covid remains a very scary beast.

Think you have misunderstood my point. I was highlighting that a friend's relative had delta in the summer and now has the new one so there is a question mark on relying on immunity from having another variant may not work. I think they no more hence the push to increase the immunity with the booster programme

Re: Vaccine Passports? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:20 pm  

The regulations have been published: Cat A: venues listed in Schedule 1 (will come to that) Cat B: "is attended, or is likely to be attended, at any point" by 500 or more people indoors or partly indoors and partly outdoors Cat C: Outdoors with 4,000 or more people Cat D: events with over 10,000 people Category B events require that the 500+ people "are likely to stand or move around" during the event, and that *doesn't* include going to the toilet or getting food or drink. https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/ ... 9827954691

The regulations have been published: Cat A: venues listed in Schedule 1 (will come to that) Cat B: "is attended, or is likely to be attended, at any point" by 500 or more people indoors or partly indoors and partly outdoors Cat C: Outdoors with 4,000 or more people Cat D: events with over 10,000 people Category B events require that the 500+ people "are likely to stand or move around" during the event, and that *doesn't* include going to the toilet or getting food or drink. https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/ ... 9827954691

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Re: Vaccine Passports? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:24 pm  

ok sorry about that. Had to lock while I cleaned it up.
No problem everyone posting on the subject, it certainly is relevant to us, just keep away from the anti vax stuff please.

Re: Vaccine Passports? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:31 pm  

PopTart wrote:

ok sorry about that. Had to lock while I cleaned it up.
No problem everyone posting on the subject, it certainly is relevant to us, just keep away from the anti vax stuff please.

Basically only post what PopTart agrees with.

Dont post anything else or it will be deleted.

Goodbye.

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Re: Vaccine Passports? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:33 pm  

Deeeekos wrote:

I come in peace. Been reading this thread with interest and also wondered as to how they might be implemented.

This comes on the day that it appears the government website ran out of test kits apparently and with supply chains and actual contracts being what they are who knows what the availability of tests will actually be in the new year.

As regards capacity, it would be interesting to see how different grounds can/will interpret the rather odd rules. Will they simply go off total capacity, go off a general average of overall crowd, or is there scope to treat each stand as a separate entity?

Personally, logical fallacy or not, I'm not a fan of these types of measures in general, where they are heading or the division they are already clearly sewing and I too am waiting to buy my season ticket based on what will be invoked.

Its a tough question as there are bound to be extra costs to manage it, whether its devices to check covid passports or extra people to manage the queues.
To a club like Wakefield, the last thing we need is extra cost. But if it gets us a crowd in, then its probably worth it.

Now I think about it, I can't remember whether someone scanned my pass when I went to Wembley or just looked at it and let me through. I think they scanned at Wimbledon but not at Wembley. Anyone else go and remember what they did?

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Re: Vaccine Passports? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:34 pm  

trin77 wrote:

Basically only post what PopTart agrees with.

Dont post anything else or it will be deleted.

Goodbye.

lol. Do you know I was just typing a PM to say lets just forget the comment and post sensibly. Never mind.

Re: Vaccine Passports? : Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:03 am  

Vaccine passports do not stop you contracting the Corona virus, they are just a nasty form of control that the goverment are, and have been introducing little by little over the last 20 months or so. By the way latest figures up to October this year for mean / average age of deaths involving Covid [i.e. Covid mentioned on death certificate, but also not necessarily primary cause of death] in England is just over 82 years .
So are all these restrictions / lockdowns / social distancing / mask wearing / vaccine jabs / working from home / shutting down of the economy etc really about a virus that over 99 per cent of the population if you are unlucky enough to contract it,will survive.

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Re: Vaccine Passports? : Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:37 am  

How is a passport controlling me?
It is something that is just made available to you.

Effectively a digital version of the card you get when you get the jab.

Re: Vaccine Passports? : Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:39 am  

KevW60349 wrote:

Vaccine passports do not stop you contracting the Corona virus, they are just a nasty form of control that the goverment are, and have been introducing little by little over the last 20 months or so. By the way latest figures up to October this year for mean / average age of deaths involving Covid [i.e. Covid mentioned on death certificate, but also not necessarily primary cause of death] in England is just over 82 years .
So are all these restrictions / lockdowns / social distancing / mask wearing / vaccine jabs / working from home / shutting down of the economy etc really about a virus that over 99 per cent of the population if you are unlucky enough to contract it,will survive.

Surely that argument works both ways?

Re: Vaccine Passports? : Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:49 am  

PopTart wrote:

How is a passport controlling me?
It is something that is just made available to you.

Effectively a digital version of the card you get when you get the jab.

Made "available" and something you now have to produce to now get into some places...