Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:23 pm  

We should table a motion of no confidence in the current board. We’re getting one new stand at the risk of relegation.

Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:28 pm  

Luppylad wrote:

Dave wasnt the lad giving away sets of 6 and missing tackles in that time or they didnt do the damage with overlaps 1 man doesnt make that much of a difference look at barrow and halifax the other week when fax won playing 11 v 13

Well it did today squire, And if Dave had been on the field then the players having to take up the slack with Dave been missing in action then the lads having to do the extra tackling for Dave in that heat might not have been under as much pressure missing tackles they might not have had to make for Dave or that other duckegg had they been on the field, I could be wrong of course and you spot on, but for me credit where credits due full marks to Fifita and Butler.

Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:45 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Well it did today squire, And if Dave had been on the field then the players having to take up the slack with Dave been missing in action then the lads having to do the extra tackling for Dave in that heat might not have been under as much pressure missing tackles they might not have had to make for Dave or that other duckegg had they been on the field, I could be wrong of course and you spot on, but for me credit where credits due full marks to Fifita and Butler.

So was it dave fault jordan did a shocking pass from acting half to lose possession or corey knocked on when still at 20 4 .think at times people just look for a scapegoat or look at what they think is the obvious.teams go men down all the time but dont capatulate like that.it wasnt tierdness either it was poor attitude and no desire like i said look at halifax v barrow

Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:13 pm  

Let’s be honest playing a half for 20 mins with 12 men is hardly ideal , just ask Wigan today what losing a man does when your in full control, it doesn’t matter in the big scheme of things if you lose by 2 or 22 is still a big fat nil against you . Toulouse we’re gifted a lifeline in that second period and took it gratefully with both hands ,we then decided to turn into headless chickens and capitulated spectacularly . We looked like we didn’t have the fight nor the attitude to dig in and put up a fight . There are players that are giving their all ,but equally players that obviously don’t give a dam about the club or the fans ,and take a wage for the minimum of effort. We all know who they are without the need for name calling , and I’m positive the staff at Trinity know ,as it certainly doesn’t take a genius to pick them out . We’ve started the rebuild , hopefully it will continue at pace ,as time is running out for us .But it’s not over till the fat lady sings ,and we must fight all the way until it’s mathematically impossible,just need to get the players into that mindset, and jobs a good un as they say .

Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:14 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I may be incorrect but did WP not state prior to today’s game that the performance is far more important than the result. I am not a coach but no it is not because one will usually result in the other.

I really hope he didn't, because this was the one game where the result was more important. If we'd won today, I think we'd be safe, as Toulouse would have had the job of winning three more games than us in a very limited time. On the flipside, they are one win from safety, and now full of confidence.

If that is true, it is an utterly brainless thing to say. Today was only about the result.

It's okay hearing your boss say it when you're at teams like Leeds and Warrington, where you're trying to instil some self-belief for a last push for Old Trafford. When you say it yourself for a game where only the result mattered, you have to wonder what on earth is going on.

Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:22 pm  

Teltry wrote:

Well some on here blamed our demise on Chester and now it's Poching who can't coach what a sorry state we are in.Fifita getting stick for getting binned which was a silly rush of blood to the head. But imo Fifita was playing Toulouse on his own when he got back on. His effort and work rate was relentless. We have to realise the buck stops with the man at the top and he has to sort out the problem on the pitch or else we will have a new refurbished stadium with nobody in it.

It’s Chester’s team/squad bar Corey Hall and a couple of recently signed front rowers!

Willie has deserved a shot at the big chair but he’s been handed a poisoned chalice. Chester did the recruitment and signed some poor and past it players who’s injury records should have been warning enough to stay away. Corey Hall is the shining light in the team and Willie has also managed Lewis Murphy’s transition to 1st team pretty well.

The BoD aren’t faultless in this either, Carter was too close to Chester and it tainted his decision making, allowing him to stay too long and blow the recruitment budget before sacking him. We’ve made little to no investment in the training facilities throughout the whole tenure of Mike Carter.

Willie isn’t blameless, he’s too affable and maybe isn’t the correct man for the job but he really deserved a better chance to succeed than he’s been given.

Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:24 pm  

Luppylad wrote:

Dave wasnt the lad giving away sets of 6 and missing tackles in that time or they didnt do the damage with overlaps 1 man doesnt make that much of a difference look at barrow and halifax the other week when fax won playing 11 v 13

Sorry but you’re wrong
On a wide open field, with a pitch side temperature of 30+ and facing a team who are also scrapping for their livelihoods, losing a man is a big deal!

Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:36 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I couldn't agree with you less. None of that is to do with Poaching. Squarely at the players.

Have you ever played competitive rugby league? Trust me, it’s not all about the players.

Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:46 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I may be incorrect but did WP not state prior to today’s game that the performance is far more important than the result. I am not a coach but no it is not because one will usually result in the other.

Today should have been about the result and the result only. A chance to go six points clear and instead we're now only two points clear. I'd have been happy for us to have played like a drunk pub team and won 8-4 rather than get to 20-4 up and piddled the game away like we did.

In past seasons I've always seen a way out of our predicament and a way to stay up. That's now gone. I'm resigned to finishing in the bottom spot.

Re: Poching cant coach : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:46 pm  

Some years ago, it was similar but not as bad. MC asked anyone who wanted out to knock on his door. Do it again.