Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:24 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

It feels to me as if the council monkeys have the perfect excuse in the government cuts inplace to shaft us on Newmarket, and force a move to glasshoughton.
There recent track record for wasting cash in cas and the popularity of the excape/Freeport site suggests to me this is clearly the favoured site the wmdc.
I just hope that we don't really need them, and we can continue without there direct/indirect £2m.
Perhaps a statement from York court/Rodders regarding how we move forward in light of the councils statement, would give us a clearer view of where we are and more importantly how we move forward.
If the development is only going to be slowed down, and this is supported by the developer, then the club should state clearly our intention to groundshare short term.


At oakwell, if this is made clear, I cannot see our franchise being turned down as we will have ticked the boxs re stadia standards, and we also have the ground continuing in the, hopefully very short term background.
We then do not have to support the glasshoughton project, or the proposed castleford groundshare there, as they seem keen to at the moment.
Where that them leaves them??????

If we fail to get a verdict in favour of Newmarket then i feel this is the line the club and Swag will take.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:24 pm  

Fully wrote:

G'houghton will go ahead and be built. But just phased - I think that's the sticking point financially. We have enough to go it alone and build some structure but not enough to complete the entire stadium. With Wakefield on board the likelihood is that the whole complex will be sorted.

If we have a fall back at oakwell (please someone confirm we have!!!!) then there is no need for us to support glasshoughton.
Fully, I really cannot see anyone at the club voting for it, so I think you may well be in it on your own, but the clocks ticks ever quicker, you may need to think about a plan b also?

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:27 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

It feels to me as if the council monkeys have the perfect excuse in the government cuts inplace to shaft us on Newmarket, and force a move to glasshoughton.
There recent track record for wasting cash in cas and the popularity of the excape/Freeport site suggests to me this is clearly the favoured site the wmdc.
I just hope that we don't really need them, and we can continue without there direct/indirect £2m.
Perhaps a statement from York court/Rodders regarding how we move forward in light of the councils statement, would give us a clearer view of where we are and more importantly how we move forward.
If the development is only going to be slowed down, and this is supported by the developer, then the club should state clearly our intention to groundshare short term.


At oakwell, if this is made clear, I cannot see our franchise being turned down as we will have ticked the boxs re stadia standards, and we also have the ground continuing in the, hopefully very short term background.
We then do not have to support the glasshoughton project, or the proposed castleford groundshare there, as they seem keen to at the moment.
Where that them leaves them??????

Good post, and IMO a real option.

If we don't agree to Glasshoughton then politically it would be very difficult even for a devious sod like Box to dump Trinity and push Glasshoughton. We are as entitled to backing as much as Cas. Oakwell is a short term option IMHO (no actual idea of cost etc) that would easily buy us another franchise whilst we continue with the Newmarket scheme. Could Cas pull the same rabbit out of the hat? Check the games by laws, they can't.

NOTE: I have no idea if this is happening, just following Kinsleys logic.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:27 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Completely agree.

You could not afford to survive at Oakwell. You would lose crowd numbers, your identity, ground related income streams.

And as a side note, have you asked Barnsley about this yet? Do they get a say in it.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:29 pm  

vastman wrote:

Mods is this post acceptable?

What justification is there for this personal attack on someone who to date has done nothing remotely dodgy.

I've never met Walker or know much about him or whether he is a good or bad man before the poodle stuff starts.

Its no worse than some of the stuff i've seen posted about RW.

That said any personal attacks stop at this point for all posters.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:30 pm  

rugbyball wrote:

You could not afford to survive at Oakwell. You would lose crowd numbers, your identity, ground related income streams.

And as a side note, have you asked Barnsley about this yet? Do they get a say in it.

God i hope you dont work in a hospice!

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:32 pm  

Would Barnsley want you there? Also, would the RFL see this is a quick attempt to exploit another franchise and disallow it. I feel pushing that option would be futile.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:32 pm  

Fully wrote:

G'houghton will go ahead and be built. But just phased - I think that's the sticking point financially. We have enough to go it alone and build some structure but not enough to complete the entire stadium. With Wakefield on board the likelihood is that the whole complex will be sorted.

Won't wash at franchise, you are kidding yourself IMHO. With that logic you could say BV is phased! You like us promised SL a SL standard stadium by 2012. You will not have one whilst Widnes have and if we moved to Oakwell we would. Work it out, your plan won't work.

Again I'm just following Kinsleys logic.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:32 pm  

We got away with using Oakwell last time, i can not see it working again.

Would Barnsley allow it?

Would the RFL allow it?

Would the Wakey fans travel in numbers to make the venture viable?

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:33 pm  

rugbyball wrote:

You could not afford to survive at Oakwell. You would lose crowd numbers, your identity, ground related income streams.

And as a side note, have you asked Barnsley about this yet? Do they get a say in it.

Having said that Im sure the RFL will go for it as long as you call yourselves Barnsley Bears. Cos I do not think they will buy a Wakefield franchise playing in Barnsley. And like I said before Im not sure your business plan would stack up and that is more important in any franchise application.