Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:42 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Yes to both!!!
Can't see what the rfl could do about it, half of SL clubs are tennants and even in Newmarket we would be.
Ok it's not in the immediate area, but if it was only while we are progressing with Newmarket then at least we are seeking to improve our situation, which is at least a sign of possitivity, i think?!

Also i'm guessing they're ok with Saints playing at Widnes so there is no reason why they would blocks that option if it was ever proposed.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:48 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Also i'm guessing they're ok with Saints playing at Widnes so there is no reason why they would blocks that option if it was ever proposed.

dont think the rl is the issue for us and oakwell, i just dont think we could sustain a viable team there with the support we have, saints are a different bigger club, who win games in style occasionally!

last time we were at oakwell Ray Price and Brian Jackson were here that season the aussies played at bv we could afford to play a few dead fixtures and one of those was sheffield if i remember rightly, and i do cos pricey flattened aston at half time!

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:54 pm  

chapster wrote:

oh come on KC! we havnt got one that stacks up for this year mate!

Put your hand up and wait your turn chappers!!!
I was asking her!
Where is she anyway?
Also please do not criticise the business accumen of the club, I will not stand for it, I will not!!!

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:55 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Oh she's back!!
Whatever we would lose would be a short term loss, losing SL licence would be a long term loss.
Hopefully they have been consulted, and I'm sure they would approve a short term tennant, as they're possibly as strapped as most other sports clubs.
I hope I have in some way eased your worries for us!

Sorry the truth has hurt. None of you wanted to listen a couple of weeks ago when sir rod made it clear in the WE that a ground share was the only option. No I was reading between the lines and coming up with what I wanted to fit my own agenda. Well now do you believe me? People on here have been deluded, selfish, and arrogant all along with regards Newmarket, you have concentrated on venting your spleen at the Nimbys as you put it. Probably just good honest people who do not want a warehouses the size of 11 rugby pitches in their rural back gardens and have the right under certain planning terms to object, as would any of us.

TRB and his crowed are the ones who have led you on whilst giving you no firm facts, leaving you all to believe that funding was in the bag and that York court would be footing the bill. You lot on here have gone along like sheep and never questioned the scheme to come up with your own conclusions as to weather you were being told all the facts.

You accept answers to problems to questions about flooding etc, like its all sorted in the planning, when in reality anything in York courts planning proposals at this stage are just that, and not sorted until planning is consent is actually given.

Time to stop trusting the word of the anointed few and form your own opinions and challenge the appropriate, people.( WTWC WTCT council Yorkcourt)
Here is an example has anybody asked who is paying Sir Rod and How much That would be a question I would want answering if my future were at stake.

Ps I will admit to resorting to being childish with the pictures etc, that was born out of the frustration of none of you seeing what was in front of your eyes.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:58 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Put your hand up and wait your turn chappers!!!
I was asking her!
Where is she anyway?
Also please do not criticise the business accumen of the club, I will not stand for it, I will not!!!

Sorry sir!

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:59 pm  

Fully wrote:

Would Barnsley want you there? Also, would the RFL see this is a quick attempt to exploit another franchise and disallow it. I feel pushing that option would be futile.

A: Don't know. But it's plausible. A team with an average gate of 6,000. It's own support staff, facilities and offices. Playing in your off season. Only someone very blinkered wouldn't see the attractions for both clubs. The only real issue would be the cost.

B: Why is it an attempt to exploit franchise, why would the RFL care, Oakwell is a first class stadium about 6 miles as the crow flies from BV (a criteria as it happens). We could move there permanently and the RFL would be happy, a real foothold in S Yorks! The only folk with egg on it's face would be WMDC having to watch it's premier club and namesake playing in a different MDC, that would take some explaining.

C: So theoretically we have a plan B. If we dig our heals in and scupper Glasshoughton do you? I don't see it at the moment so I'd tread carefully and not p*ss Wakey fans off too much though in fairness I don't think that is your aim.

It's all theoretical and I really hope no one is forced down a road they don't want to travel. One thing is certain IMO and that is Wakefield wouldn't survive a season at Glasshoughton. Cas could make a home at Newmarket if they embraced it but you have the wrong man running the club for that. I accept you might not agree with my last statement and feel Newmarket would destroy Cas.

Just as a matter of interest. Had Cas come up with the Newmarket scheme as their own with no ground share and wholly owned by them would you accept it. Is it the share or the location (considering it's almost exactly midway between both existing grounds) that bothers you. For us it's both as Glasshoughton is miles away from and is in Cas (about 2 miles from the existing ground). Surely you have to accept that although neither share is ideal the Glasshoughton option offers us a far sh*ttier and of the stick than Newmarket offers you?

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:04 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Also i'm guessing they're ok with Saints playing at Widnes so there is no reason why they would blocks that option if it was ever proposed.

There's a massive difference. Saints are playing there for a year until their ground gets built. You're on about playing at Oakwell for the entire three-year period aren't you?

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:06 pm  

rugbyball wrote:

Sorry the truth has hurt. None of you wanted to listen a couple of weeks ago when sir rod made it clear in the WE that a ground share was the only option. No I was reading between the lines and coming up with what I wanted to fit my own agenda. Well now do you believe me? People on here have been deluded, selfish, and arrogant all along with regards Newmarket, you have concentrated on venting your spleen at the Nimbys as you put it. Probably just good honest people who do not want a warehouses the size of 11 rugby pitches in their rural back gardens and have the right under certain planning terms to object, as would any of us.

TRB and his crowed are the ones who have led you on whilst giving you no firm facts, leaving you all to believe that funding was in the bag and that York court would be footing the bill. You lot on here have gone along like sheep and never questioned the scheme to come up with your own conclusions as to weather you were being told all the facts.

You accept answers to problems to questions about flooding etc, like its all sorted in the planning, when in reality anything in York courts planning proposals at this stage are just that, and not sorted until planning is consent is actually given.

Time to stop trusting the word of the anointed few and form your own opinions and challenge the appropriate, people.( WTWC WTCT council Yorkcourt)
Here is an example has anybody asked who is paying Sir Rod and How much That would be a question I would want answering if my future were at stake.

Ps I will admit to resorting to being childish with the pictures etc, that was born out of the frustration of none of you seeing what was in front of your eyes.

That would be your truth, you being a member of the board at Barnsley, Wakefield, the RFL and Yorkcourt. These just being a few of the positions you'd need to hold for your version of the truth to have any validity. Back to Fev village for you.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:08 pm  

[quote="vastman"]A: Don't know. But it's plausible. A team with an average gate of 6,000. It's own support staff, facilities and offices. Playing in your off season. Only someone very blinkered wouldn't see the attractions for both clubs. The only real issue would be the cost.

Dont the council own Oakwell anyway? so sod all to do with barnsley FC

Dont think it would stack up for us in revenue terms though vasty, not for a full season and ever worse 2. our core away support is only about 1500 at best and im sorry 6 miles it may be but its 6 miles most wont go, ffs most of them dont get out of pubs in town to go down now, the sky games would be horrendous!

Somebodys going to have to convince me there is a plan b that is viable, and that plan A isnt doomed.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:08 pm  

vastman wrote:

Just as a matter of interest. Had Cas come up with the Newmarket scheme as their own with no ground share and wholly owned by them would you accept it. Is it the share or the location (considering it's almost exactly midway between both existing grounds) that bothers you. For us it's both as Glasshoughton is miles away from and is in Cas (about 2 miles from the existing ground). Surely you have to accept that although neither share is ideal the Glasshoughton option offers us a far sh*ttier and of the stick than Newmarket offers you?

No. It's out of Cas. If it hadn't been in Glasshoughton, it would have been Whitwood. Anywhere outside is not good enough for me. Most definitely location.

I wouldn't be bothered about a share as long as it was in Glasshoughton or Normanton. And I disagree with your last sentence too. Newmarket offers us sod all. We've spent a lot of money on GH, you haven't at Newmarket. There's nothing there for Cas fans that Glasshoughton doesn't offer us.

For so long, Wakefield fans have bleated about how Cas is part of Wakefield. Having a stadium in Castleford is still part of Wakefield under that ethos. It gives us a foothold to target and market the club to new fans in a different area and also take away fans from your rivals? You will be playing in a premier sporting facility in a premier location. Glasshoughton offers you more benefits, IMO. I think you're just stubborn to see/admit it. Even some of your own fans have admitted it is better.