Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 7:38 pm  

woody01 wrote:

I think some fans need to stop making Tim the scapegoat and start looking at the bigger picture, I am not saying Tim is playing well but how can he pull the plays off move the team around the park when his pack are getting bullied and are it going forward? We could have the best half backs in the world playing for us but the bottom line is if your pack is not going forward and dominating then your not going to get the room space and time to put on the plays and for Tim to do his job, he is having to do everything John is not helping him one bit! Before anyone thinks am Tim smiths defence Lawyer Am really not just think fans need to be looking at other players before making Tim smith the scapegoat

my sentiments exactly but some don't seem to get it.

Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 7:40 pm  

Some of the replies/justifications for the cheering/jeering/booing at Tim Smith today are nearly as disgusting as the act of cheering/jeering/booing itself, I was disgusted to hear the cheers when TS was subbed and TBH Wood was far worse than smith and wee conceded more points whilst wood was on the pitch.
Smith is a class act but is not able to show his class often due to the constraints elsewhere in the team’s makeup, much the same can be said for John.
Next week is make or break a poor performance against cas again will see fans vote with their feet, some come on WTW let’s pull it out of the bag and get to Manchester in numbers to support "ALL" of our team.
BTW I think Mathers make a good captain he was defo communicating and organising things throughout the game

Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 7:41 pm  

worksopwildcat wrote:

I dont really understand your point. Are you saying that because Tim Smith is bi polar he should not have his poor performance addressed ? The point about him showing a complete lack of respect to the coach (Morrisson)who was trying to address him on the field is that a bi polar behaviour ? Are you sure its not just the conduct of an ignorant individual that is not a team player ?
Finaly you claimed that because of his condition during the game he was "not on this planet" - Is that good for the team or indeed himself?

You said he had poor mental strength, therefore that was his reason for failure in the NRL...I said you don't need to be Einstein to realise that their poor mental strength underpins bipolar! In case you cant read I will say it again. He shouldn't be wrapped up in cotton wool because he is bipolar, but in my opinion the finger is pointed at him unnecessarily and he is made the scape goat. He isn't playing poorly, he is playing behind a poop pack and doing the best he can. What will probably be distressing for him is that he is actually trying his best FOR THE TEAM with less than adequate platform. Fans always, always will criticise the HB if points are not being scored, however they need to look at the wider picture.

Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 7:49 pm  

kingsway cat wrote:

You said he had poor mental strength, therefore that was his reason for failure in the NRL...I said you don't need to be Einstein to realise that their poor mental strength underpins bipolar! In case you cant read I will say it again. He shouldn't be wrapped up in cotton wool because he is bipolar, but in my opinion the finger is pointed at him unnecessarily and he is made the scape goat. He isn't playing poorly, he is playing behind a poop pack and doing the best he can. What will probably be distressing for him is that he is actually trying his best FOR THE TEAM with less than adequate platform. Fans always, always will criticise the HB if points are not being scored, however they need to look at the wider picture.

Just for the purpose of clarification. I did not say anything about his failure in the NRL, NOTHING. Furthermore you did not answer my questions NONE of them. Other than that thanks for the great insight you provided me with. Lastly you did call me stupid, I am currently managing to cope with this but if i do go off the rails because of the excessively harsh critiscim I will let you know.

Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 7:54 pm  

worksopwildcat wrote:

Just for the purpose of clarification. I did not say anything about his failure in the NRL, NOTHING. Furthermore you did not answer my questions NONE of them. Other than that thanks for the great insight you provided me with. Lastly you did call me stupid, I am currently managing to cope with this but if i do go off the rails because of the excessively harsh critiscim I will let you know.

From reading your posts on this thread you seem to be a bit of a moron who finds mental health problems a reason for ridicule.

Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 8:12 pm  

wildcat13 wrote:

From reading your posts on this thread you seem to be a bit of a moron who finds mental health problems a reason for ridicule.

You are entitled to your opinion but can assure you that I dont find mental health problems a reason for ridicule.

Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 8:30 pm  

I notice you didn't refute the "Moron" label though

Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 8:32 pm  

financialtimes wrote:

I notice you didn't refute the "Moron" label though

Its much less offensive to be honest, I can live with that.

Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 8:43 pm  

worksopwildcat wrote:

Dont agree with all this support the players no matter what tosh. If they cant handle disquiet from supporters then I worry about their mental toughness. By the way I am currently training a pup that at the moment is wazzing all over a variety of carpets in my house. I guess I am supposed to stand back and applaud him warmly before tickling his tummy and giving him a chocolate drop. I was thinking of berrating him in a direct manner and letting him know that he needs to change his behaviour - I assume that this would be cruel and effect him mentaly leading to a terrible life and subsequent suicide.

Smith was not on the field when the majority of the points were scored and does not deserve the crap jeering thats my point. I agree though we need to compete in the collision for 80 mins and we're not. Thats the WTW packs responsibility .....

Re: bigeest cheer today : Sun May 20, 2012 8:47 pm  

worksopwildcat wrote:

Dont agree with all this support the players no matter what tosh. If they cant handle disquiet from supporters then I worry about their mental toughness. By the way I am currently training a pup that at the moment is wazzing all over a variety of carpets in my house. I guess I am supposed to stand back and applaud him warmly before tickling his tummy and giving him a chocolate drop. I was thinking of berrating him in a direct manner and letting him know that he needs to change his behaviour - I assume that this would be cruel and effect him mentaly leading to a terrible life and subsequent suicide.