Re: New stadium disinterest? : Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:31 pm  

M62 J30 TRINITY wrote:

See what Sir Rodney Walker says surely they'll be a statement if all this is true. Don't care who's involved in the trust aslong as we get the stadium. He may yet deliver the stadium he promised 8 years ago.
In Sir Rodney we trust
Up the Trin

Although most fans would be happy to see a new stadium, no matter who eventually puts all the ducks in a line.
However, your "In Sir Rodney we trust" is downright offensive.
Are you suggesting that the remaining members of the community trust, including our chairman and TRB have anything other than the clubs best interests at heart.

Unless you know something that the rest of us dont, you may be best served keeping those views to yourself.
After what has gone on regarding the proposed stadium, I dont think that he has too many friends left at Wakefield.

Re: New stadium disinterest? : Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:36 pm  

M62 J30 TRINITY wrote:

In Sir Rodney we trust

Statements like this helped contribute to this mess. There already is a trust to facilitate the delivery of a new stadium. It now asks difficult question and is fully committed to getting a new stadium/facilities. All of a sudden the developer no longer want to work with this trust and would rather go back to dealing with someone who, at best, will quite happily sit back and not push them to deliver and, at worst, conspire with them so they never have to.

[Wildthing]

Re: New stadium disinterest? : Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:43 pm  

In Sir Rodney we trust? Yeah he's been a great help hasn't he?

Re: New stadium disinterest? : Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:13 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Although most fans would be happy to see a new stadium, no matter who eventually puts all the ducks in a line.
However, your "In Sir Rodney we trust" is downright offensive.
Are you suggesting that the remaining members of the community trust, including our chairman and TRB have anything other than the clubs best interests at heart.

Unless you know something that the rest of us dont, you may be best served keeping those views to yourself.
After what has gone on regarding the proposed stadium, I dont think that he has too many friends left at Wakefield.

I'm a Wakefield Trinity RLFC fan and want a decent stadium for our City, don't care what trust provides it. It's not a case of taking sides and like every Trinity fan have respect for the trust volunteers but we need a stadium and if Sir Rodney Walker can finally get us the stadium as his lasting legacy to his City then the jobs a good un.
Up the Trin

Re: New stadium disinterest? : Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:23 pm  

Peter Box in a box. Amarite lads?

Re: New stadium disinterest? : Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:46 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Where are the Trust in all this? I don't like to be critical, because of the voluntary nature of the job and TRB's inevitable tantrum, but why do they persist with either silence, non-statement statements, or cryptic messages about sensitive discussions that can't be disclosed?

Why not just get the facts out there - and let people power bring Box out of hiding like it did last time? The silence is maddening, especially when Box is writing to people and giving more information than the Trust themselves.

If it's true that he failed to attend the meeting and there is no forward progress - then get back in touch with the two national journalists who ran the story originally, and tell them the facts - they love a nice easy follow up that is basically written for them; that hits social media, and bingo - another wave of negative publicity for Box and WMDC.

Bless!

Re: New stadium disinterest? : Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:54 pm  

M62 J30 TRINITY wrote:

I'm a Wakefield Trinity RLFC fan and want a decent stadium for our City, don't care what trust provides it. It's not a case of taking sides and like every Trinity fan have respect for the trust volunteers but we need a stadium and if Sir Rodney Walker can finally get us the stadium as his lasting legacy to his City then the jobs a good un.
Up the Trin

I understand why you say that, but the Trust under Sir Rodney oversaw the giving up of NC without any agreement in place to ensure that we received recompense due from the developer. If Sir Rodney's intentions were honourable, he would have seen a Stadium developed under the Trust that he chaired and ran for 7 or 8 years.

What goood is a Stadium if it comes after the club has already left the City and given up its SL place? Sir Rodney starting a new Trust merely muddies the water still further - putting the reality of a Stadium yet further away in the distance, and that would seem to benefit anybody but our club!

Re: New stadium disinterest? : Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:09 pm  

TRB wrote:

I understand why you say that, but the Trust under Sir Rodney oversaw the giving up of NC without any agreement in place to ensure that we received recompense due from the developer. If Sir Rodney's intentions were honourable, he would have seen a Stadium developed under the Trust that he chaired and ran for 7 or 8 years.

What goood is a Stadium if it comes after the club has already left the City and given up its SL place? Sir Rodney starting a new Trust merely muddies the water still further - putting the reality of a Stadium yet further away in the distance, and that would seem to benefit anybody but our club!

Do you, or anyone else who imply people intentions haven't been honourable or use words like corrupt, have any hard, irrefutable proof that SRW or Peter Box have been involved in improper conduct. As if not not i'd probably refrain in putting it in writing, as i'm pretty sure they ain't happy about it and we don't want it to bite anyone on the backside.

I notice Carter/ Bretherton couldn't hold their water and have run to the press again. The noise i'm hearing is the relationship has broken down beyond repair between the developer and certain original trust members, something to do with their rather abrasive nature. Now that might be understandable given everything thats gone on but if that is the case then maybe something has to change. Lets be honest we ain't going anywhere fast right now.

Quite frankly from a purely personal point of view i couldn't care less who negotiates a deal as long as it gets built. And if its its somewhere else rather than Newmarket even better, never thought it was the right place for a stadium anyway. There are other options land wise apparently, its all about a getting a deal that works for both parties. The current one doesn't cos Yorkcourt can't afford it. There is going to have to be some give and take both ways.

Re: New stadium disinterest? : Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:04 am  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Do you, or anyone else who imply people intentions haven't been honourable or use words like corrupt, have any hard, irrefutable proof that SRW or Peter Box have been involved in improper conduct. As if not not i'd probably refrain in putting it in writing, as i'm pretty sure they ain't happy about it and we don't want it to bite anyone on the backside.

I notice Carter/ Bretherton couldn't hold their water and have run to the press again. The noise i'm hearing is the relationship has broken down beyond repair between the developer and certain original trust members, something to do with their rather abrasive nature. Now that might be understandable given everything thats gone on but if that is the case then maybe something has to change. Lets be honest we ain't going anywhere fast right now.

Quite frankly from a purely personal point of view i couldn't care less who negotiates a deal as long as it gets built. And if its its somewhere else rather than Newmarket even better, never thought it was the right place for a stadium anyway. There are other options land wise apparently, its all about a getting a deal that works for both parties. The current one doesn't cos Yorkcourt can't afford it. There is going to have to be some give and take both ways.

I don't think anybody cares who negotiates a deal if it comes to fruition, however do you trust the trio of Walker, Mackie or Box to deliver it after years of inaction? I suggest if the relation has broken down its because Yorkcourt are being asked difficult questions and spotlights are being put on their actions. They don't have the funding for a new stadium but I believe they don't have the inclination to construct one anyway. They are playing the long game and are waiting on Trinity to fold or leave the city permanently. NM would soon full up with units then.

They have all has chance to throw litigation at us, and let's face it the council ain't backward about coming forward when it comes to threatening legal action. I don't belive they will as they don't want this issue getting further attention, from lawyers or the media. That way they can quietly keep on with the status quo. We all saw what a tiny bit of pressure from a small number of Trinity supporters did to try and move things along.

Finally there does have to be some give and take. Currently Yorkcourt have taken, they need to give something back to the community. It starts by signing up to the new agreement that states the whole of NC counts towards the trigger point pdq, and there is no need for this agreement to be confidential. After that it is a waiting game until the rest of the development fills up.

Re: New stadium disinterest? : Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:53 am  

I don't pretend to know the ins and outs as to why SRW stormed out of the original Trust but as a mere onlooker I am extremely curious to know WHY he would want any further involvement in the matter? WHY will the other side now, apparently, only negotiate with him?
The biggest WHY is, if Yorkcourt came into the original agreement with goodwill, WHY have they remained completely silent throughout about the situation - surely they would want to be proclaiming what they are doing for the people of Wakefield?
All the secrecy simply breeds suspicion and those involved can blame no-one but themselves if people jump to conclusions. I know I have.