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Re: belle vue : Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:19 am  
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Despite being asked many times, he has never presented any request for rent? Therefore how do I pay it or even negotiate it?



I'm staggered at this. Whatever is going on between the council & the developers has a really bad smell about it :LIAR:
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Re: belle vue : Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:19 pm  
If were screwed either, as seems to be the case, I would call the Council's bluff on this and accept the terms they offer, if they ever get rounded to providing them. Watch them poop themselves when they suddenly have to back up what they said they will do and not have the club to shift the blame on when it doesn't happen.
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Re: belle vue : Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:25 pm  
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If were screwed either, as seems to be the case, I would call the Council's bluff on this and accept the terms they offer, if they ever get rounded to providing them. Watch them poop themselves when they suddenly have to back up what they said they will do and not have the club to shift the blame on when it doesn't happen.

Unreal situation isn't it and like I said before shows where 88m loyalties and priorities lie. So much for his words about wanting/thinking the best for the fans of Trinity or whatever he said. I can't believe we have to deal with another turd in the punch bowl.

I was gonna say the same though, call their bluff on their supposed Community Stadium. Like you hint at they haven't been right good at paperwork so far and watch them also backtrack on that offer for the Community.
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Re: belle vue : Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:45 pm  
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Despite being asked many times, he has never presented any request for rent? Therefore how do I pay it or even negotiate it?

The owner of belle Vue could be brought to task with a half decent council who obviously hold the key to developing the former superbowl site, I wonder where we get one of them from...
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Re: belle vue : Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:42 am  
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You mean ‘in your opinion’ its “nonsense”
I don’t agree with you because the alternative leads to nowhere but the end of the club as we know it or maybe just the end of the club.

“If I ever offered an alternative” you talk as if I’ve been a constant critic of others in some way, however and this may be a shock to you but I don’t seek or need your approval.

My alternative?
I just told you
Sit down and keep talking!
If you think that’s “rolling over and dying” then that’s your opinion and your problem. The alternative is to move out of Wakefield with no plan to return and there are clear examples of what that will probably lead to. I therefore prefer my alternative!

I’m as fed up as anyone with the politicking, back channelling, fork tongued statements, half truths and lies but unless someone’s got a master plan that we don’t know about yet then getting back around the table is still the best way forward.



After nearly ten years of talking around a table what has actually been achieved ? Zero - we no longer own our stadium, we have no viable plan for a stadium in the city. looking at the outputs - the council (biggest land owner in wakefield) have delivered nothing in terms of providing a facility for the club to play in, that meets super league standards. So if we continue jaw jaw on a similar basis to the preceding years - what will be the likely outcome.

INSANITY DEFINED…
Doing the Same Old Things & Expecting Different Results

Its true civil proceedings will take time we dont have, and spend money we can ill afford to lose, but getting round a table without a potential lever will just sees the current impasse remaining until the club disappears or becomes a park team playing at east moor or stanley
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Re: belle vue : Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:33 am  
The current scenario is we move to Dewsbury next season and then move again the season after maybe Coventry or Edinburgh because we cannot return to Wakefield as it currently stands. We gave notice to leave Belle Vue and we walked out of the talks therefore have we not also signalled our intentions to go our own way.
If we have a plan to stay or return to Wakefield it is not clear how the current strategy can produce this result. It will certainly facilitate our departure from Wakefield but maybe that is what we want
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Re: belle vue : Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:36 am  
That ignore button is brilliant :D
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Re: belle vue : Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:12 am  
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The current scenario is we move to Dewsbury next season and then move again the season after maybe Coventry or Edinburgh because we cannot return to Wakefield as it currently stands. We gave notice to leave Belle Vue and we walked out of the talks therefore have we not also signalled our intentions to go our own way.
If we have a plan to stay or return to Wakefield it is not clear how the current strategy can produce this result. It will certainly facilitate our departure from Wakefield but maybe that is what we want


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Re: belle vue : Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:15 am  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
The current scenario is we move to Dewsbury next season and then move again the season after maybe Coventry or Edinburgh because we cannot return to Wakefield as it currently stands. We gave notice to leave Belle Vue and we walked out of the talks therefore have we not also signalled our intentions to go our own way.
If we have a plan to stay or return to Wakefield it is not clear how the current strategy can produce this result. It will certainly facilitate our departure from Wakefield but maybe that is what we want


Your opinion from the outside looking in, or from knowledge from the inside? If the former, you need to add the acronym IMHO. If the latter, how do you know?

Unless you can confirm the latter, I'll assume it's pub speculation pretending to be expertise.
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Re: belle vue : Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:52 am  
Why how do you all see it panning out. I have given my view of the future purely based on what I have read. If any of you think I am wrong please tell me how and why it will be different.
You can of course use the ostrich button if in denial.
You ask what would I do it’s not for me to say it is for those who got us to the current position to have a plan which I suppose they have or why act in the way they have
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