Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:26 pm  

[quote="The Avenger"]Anyone would think I’d said he was a terrible player
IMO he wasn’t World Class, his only International recognition came as a late call up and after the 1982 Kangaroos had rubbished everyone else in the first 2 Tests. Had he been World Class he’d have been a regular International player for a long period of time.
His face didn't fit and he didn't play for a top side. For Christ's sake o'niel from Widnes was played in front of topliss for Britain and he wasn't fit to lace his boots. A bit like Brough in his heyday who I don't think anyone can argue was the best British scrum half not that long ago and he couldn't get a gig. So the fact he didn't play for the national side is irrelevant

Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:33 pm  

Get your facts right Avenger. Topliss played 4 times for GB, twice for England and 15 times for Yorkshire. The consensus of opinion amongst knowledgeable RL people such as Peter Fox is that he was very unfortunate to be overlooked , and lesser players selected at stand off.

Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:39 pm  

David Topliss is one of the main reasons why I started to follow Trinity and started playing rugby in the 1970s as a young lad. He was absolute class and had he had better players around him or played for a more successful team then he'd have got more international honours I'm sure.

Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:59 pm  

thebeagle wrote:

Get your facts right Avenger. Topliss played 4 times for GB, twice for England and 15 times for Yorkshire. The consensus of opinion amongst knowledgeable RL people such as Peter Fox is that he was very unfortunate to be overlooked , and lesser players selected at stand off.

I’ve got my facts right thank you and I didn’t have to Wikipedia his name to do it.

He played 4 times for GB in a career that spanned what, 20 years or so?

As I said, I rated Toppo but he wasn’t World Class IMO, he was a very good player who for the most part stuck with his hometown club and showed some loyalty.

The rose tinted brigade on here needn’t get precious about him because I’m not in any way disrespecting how good he actually was.

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Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:02 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

I’ve got my facts right thank you and I didn’t have to Wikipedia his name to do it.

As I said, I rated Toppo but he wasn’t World Class IMO, he was a very good player who for the most part stuck with his hometown club and showed some loyalty.

The rose tinted brigade on here needn’t get precious about him because I’m not in any way disrespecting how good he actually was.

Actually I think you are very much disrespecting how good he actually was.

Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:18 pm  

At the risk of being pedantic Avenger you inferred Topliss only represented GB once.Knew that was incorrect and yes checked. So what!
I too watched Poynton throughout his career and he also did not gain the ‘caps’ he should have. Two great players. Different in style ,both of whom , in my opinion , were world class.

Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:20 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Actually I think you are very much disrespecting how good he actually was.

Well you’re entitled to your opinion as am I, but you’re wrong there’s no disrespect in anything I’m saying.

Look back and you’ll see the only thing I’ve said is 5hat he wasn’t World Class but was a very good player.

Not good enough for those who disagree to just disagree though is it, there has to be an element of anger as well?

Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:28 pm  

Why is someone part of a 'rose tinted brigade' if they happen to hold a different opinion about a Trinity player? can't they just have exactly what it is - a different opinion.

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Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:29 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

Well you’re entitled to your opinion as am I, but you’re wrong there’s no disrespect in anything I’m saying.

Look back and you’ll see the only thing I’ve said is 5hat he wasn’t World Class but was a very good player.

Not good enough for those who disagree to just disagree though is it, there has to be an element of anger as well?

Because he is way more to this club than just a good player but actually you didn't just say he wasn't world class, you listed a bunch of players who you think were better in his generation and then listed a bunch of players in Super League that you think are better, some of which were just a joke comparison.

Re: Hampshire : Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:36 pm  

thebeagle wrote:

At the risk of being pedantic Avenger you inferred Topliss only represented GB once.Knew that was incorrect and yes checked. So what!
I too watched Poynton throughout his career and he also did not gain the ‘caps’ he should have. Two great players. Different in style ,both of whom , in my opinion , were world class.

No what I said was that he was a late call up and selected in 82 after the Ausies had torn through everybody else. Anyone who knows the circumstances of his selections would understand they were on multiple separate occasions.